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Smol_Gobbo 31 points ago +31 / -0

Why did a nomadic race have temples where they lived

How did the earth kingdom not notice massive fire nation armies positioning themselves to wipe them out and do something

Most importantly, how in the hell did they corner and exterminate a race of people who can FUCKING FLY, when the hot air balloon wasn’t invented until 100 years later during the events of the show


samoan62 17 points ago +17 / -0

lmao these are actual good points.

AzureAceStarburst69 3 points ago +3 / -0

I had always assumed most Air Nomads were in hiding, letting the Fire Nation think the Air Nomads were wiped out until Avatar Aang won.

If there are no Air Nomads, the reincarnation cycle might be broken. Keeping that cycle alive is important.

If the Air Nomads came out of hiding after Aang's victory, it would let LOK add prominent Airbender characters without having to tie them to Tenzin's family or a bullshit spirit event that magically makes "new" Tibetan Monk Airbenders out of Monarchist ChiComs and Indian Designated Street Benders.

Xachariah 5 points ago +5 / -0

During Sozin's comet, fire nation soldiers can fly too, and they seem to fly much faster than airbenders/sky bison.

They can also just ground all the flyers. During the finale, the fire nation plan is to just spread of flames big enough to wipe out an entire continent in a couple of hours. That's easily enough heat output make a big firestorm surrounding each of the air temples. Even if you don't make a full firestorm, the heated air will be significantly less dense, which would make buoyancy based flight impossible (Bison), while not impacting fire-based flight.

Also they rode dragons back then; there's only 2 named characters from that era and both were dragonriders. Presumably the army kept them in reserve to catch runners.

Smol_Gobbo 3 points ago +4 / -1

Only Ozai was shown to be able to fly during sozin’s comet, and he was the most powerful firebender of his time, it’s unreasonable to assume they could all fly, otherwise they would have instead of using big zeppelins. On top of that, the bulk of the fire nation army are non-benders.

The heated air thing could be possible, maybe, but we also see Appa flying in conditions where the air would be extremely hot, like when they tried to pass a fire nation blockade and the sky was filled with volley after volley of fireballs, without any trouble. Flying bison are airbenders too after all, so it’s not like the natural density of the air matters as much when you can control it.

As for the dragons, the two named characters who rode dragons were the fire lord and the avatar, two incredibly high status people. It’s ridiculous to assume that the fire nation army worked closely with dragons on any level, especially considering that they hunted them for sport later on. If they had been used for military purposes they wouldn’t be doing that because it would be a waste of valuable resources, especially before airship tech was invented.

Xachariah 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ozai isn't even the most powerful firebender in his immediate family. We also know that Azula can fly normally, so it's possible even without the massive comet boost. The show also shows an ex-admiral flying around Ba Sing Se as well, so it's not a technique reserved for the imperial family.

The fire nation was kicking off a world war in a surprise decapitation strike, with the leader of the nation personally planning for over a decade (since the death of the prior Avatar). That's not an event where you half-ass and keep things in reserve. You train all of your elites to fly while boosted and hunt escapees, and you use all of your dragons, and you deploy all of your masters. Then you throw everything into it because you need to be successful on the first shot or you die to an angry Avatar.

The fire nation attacked on the one day that they specifically lets firebenders fly with rocket boots and be 100x more powerful.
On that day, the flying people were caught and killed.
It's not rocket science.

AzureAceStarburst69 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think the flying ex admiral had the comet boost

TakenusernameA 28 points ago +28 / -0

One day, for no reason at all, the Fire Nation attacked.

GEB_SEER 8 points ago +8 / -0

This show was always globohomo programming, but hilariously never offered solutions to the problems multiculturalism incurs throughout.

Oppressinator 4 points ago +4 / -0

Legend of Korra Gently poked the woes of globohomo for about two episodes, one being that if you're not directly on the inner ring all of a sudden people who hate your existence and have all of the power can just shit on you: No solution. And then there's the shitshow that is Kuviera being such an utterly good guy-antagonist that they had to casually name drop concentration camps (For food supply raiders, mind you, thrown in there for no reason at all...) and then they gave her a giant mech just because why the fuck not. Her speech about how the Earth Kingdom just suffered through 3 years of mass starvation due to there being no central power, and also that all of the globohomo bullshit is built upon the burned out captured port cities they lost in the hundred years war, it's fucking tightly written that I honestly think that someone was taking the piss. Hell, the comics double down on this and say "Yeah sure the fire nation has raped the land for thousands of years but now the earth people LIKE being colonized, so we should just colonize them MORE"

Oppressinator 6 points ago +6 / -0

I saw a post that I wish I saved that outlines how utterly nonsensical the Air Nomad Genocide is except as a plot device to drive a show. Like... One airbender child, a master airbender but still one child, can singlehandededly throw hundreds of soldiers off of a cliff. There's no way that the air nomads didn't casually see thousands of fire benders congregating around their temples, air nomads can just fly up and above any land-based invasion, and the most damning thing, get this: Why are there still the original wooden doors in the air temples. Obviously it's a kids show that needed a plot to frame the bad guys and add massive stakes immediately, but lmao.

fourleaved 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why would the Fire Nation kill the avatar if they know he'll reincarnate, wouldn't it make more sense to capture him? Where's the fire damage to any of the air temples, wouldn't firebending supercharged by a comet leave some kind of trace? Something just doesn't add up...

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FuckMcNuggets 2 points ago +3 / -1

To be fair in Avatar there is only one airbender alive, but our world is still infested by jews