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womp_squared 96 points ago +97 / -1

This keeps popping up recently and blows my mind every time. It never occurred to me that that people don’t have internal monologue and can’t see objects in their minds.

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unplugger3214 20 points ago +20 / -0

These are literal bacteria. Consoom, reprodooce, react to external stimooli.

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DickCactus 9 points ago +9 / -0

This place blackpills the shit out of you huh man?

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JustinSonOfFidel 6 points ago +7 / -1

Fluoride

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grass_toucher 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm fucking retarded

That's what the kikes led you believe

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Dspsblyuth 20 points ago +20 / -0

As an artist I find this unfathomable. It doesn’t make any sense

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Pelides 8 points ago +8 / -0

I really enjoy writing, and this image above makes perfect sense to me. Everything is made of words in my mind. Pictures are almost nonexistent, and the idea that someone could have no internal monologue is what terrifies me.

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Julius_Severus 10 points ago +10 / -0

I can’t fathom this

If I say “picture your father’s face” or “picture Kate Upton’s cleavage” or “picture your car” you can’t see those things in your mind? How do you recognize people, places, or things if you can’t conjure up the memory of what they look like?

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Pelides 4 points ago +4 / -0

I’ll get a very brief flash of a very basic outline of the image, but it’s gone immediately. I don’t end up with anything I could peruse and spend any time looking at.

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Can-Maga 1 point ago +1 / -0

What are the techniques called?

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PurestEvil 4 points ago +4 / -0

Same with me. I have some artistic leanings and I am quite creative. I have an internal monologue, but I can't "see" when I imagine things. It clearly works in dreams - and I already figured out that you can actually hear sounds as if they're real from dreaming.

Wait, just this moment I managed to have a 3. Maybe it's just too early in the morning for this...

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Julius_Severus 4 points ago +4 / -0

So if I say “picture your house” you can’t imagine what your house looks like?

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PurestEvil 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's hard to say. I can very well imagine it and construct it in my mind... visualize and alter it. Modify the landscape and elements of the house (the landscape is very important to me).

What I "see" is merely a faded, volatile, quasi-colorless image. It is clearly distinct from what my eyes perceive, so it's clearly not 1 or 2. But I can visualize it, so it's not 5. I also don't need to close my eyes for that.

Sometimes when I walk and think I go on autopilot and notice that I don't remember a part I just walked because I was thinking about things. Oh and dreams clearly work like 1 or 2. I had dreams with powerful atmospheres and "backstories" even - for example a sense of looming danger. Or exploration... flying, invisibility, walking with my hands at extreme speeds, etc.

Is it different for you?

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fakthemods 2 points ago +2 / -0

so it's clearly not 1 or 2

You're relying to heavily on the illustration. It's not a concrete example just a illustration of the concept of an imagination gradient.

How you describe your mind's eye is how mine works with imaginary things. I can picture the inside of my house pretty well but a written description of a place is as you described.

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PurestEvil 1 point ago +1 / -0

Others here are writing that it works much better for them. It doesn't match to how it works for me.

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Austrianartstudent 5 points ago +5 / -0

I can't draw or paint for shit and I'm a 1.

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TerfidDillywop 4 points ago +4 / -0

I had to capture this moment for you in meme format: https://files.catbox.moe/jt5xwt.png

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fakthemods 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's perfect.

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gragas17 3 points ago +3 / -0

same, although your username doesnt check out then lol

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Livid 4 points ago +4 / -0

I still wonder if it is really true. How can they function at all if they can't imagine things? How can you apply for a job if you literally can't imagine yourself working there?

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gragas17 1 point ago +1 / -0

im not an artist so the images that appear in my head when i wanted to draw as a kid often did not materialize as I had planned lol

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IceMilk 17 points ago +17 / -0

Pareto curve.

Some people have no inner monologue some people have no inner vision

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Demijinx 12 points ago +12 / -0

Im just staggered. I had no idea some people didnt have this....ability? Fuck I didnt know it was an ability until now. What do they experience when they think? I often think of more complicated ideas as a nonverbal sort of thing, sort of like when you dont remember the word for something, but you know it. That but intentionally if that makes any sense at all. I still think in a monolouge. Not picturing things in their minds, how.do they solve problems? How do they understand perspective if they cant rotate objects in their heads?? Im blown away.

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Captain_Raamsley 45 points ago +49 / -4

I'm beyond a 1. I'm like, a 0. Or -1.

I can't be the only one that can imagine an apple with extremely realistic geometry and reflections, right? Like in my mind, I can generate both artificial bump maps, and actually geometry, put them side by side on the apple and see the difference clearly. I can then take that apple, send it at 1% the speed of light through a red brick wall 3 feet thick and visualize the plasma generated by such a ludicrously high velocity impact.

I'm also able to, with a comparatively small amount of focus/meditation, entirely animate an AK-47s internal and external mechanisms while firing (mostly because I bought one and studied it awhile back).

I can't be the only one...

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Captain_Raamsley 20 points ago +21 / -1

Like they're running on a single thread of a pentium processor lol

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sometimescanbefunny 8 points ago +9 / -1

Here's the way I describe it to those of average intelligence: the difference between my level of intelligence/competency and those of average intelligence/competency is the same as that average person's abilities compared to someone sitting there in the corner, drooling, wearing a helmet (difference of ~35/40 IQ points).

I tell the average person that they should try to imagine that this person is their colleague, or perhaps they're trying to train that person. Imagine trying to explain things using words to someone who is so dumb they cannot even speak. If you're lucky, they'll have the mental capacity to understand simple commands like "no." Imagine something you consider menial, banal, something like sweeping a floor or eating - and explaining it to them over and over, week after week, while they inevitably fail and screw it up. Imagine how exhausted you'd be working with someone like that every day of your life. I tell them, imagine how much self-control you'd have to exhibit to not want to yell at them, snap their neck, or simply grow to hate them.

Now imagine you're me, and half of the entire population is like that to me. Not just one helmet-donning retard, not two or even three, but up to half of everyone I interact with. To take it further, over two-thirds of people will be no more intelligent, comparatively, than the average person perceives Forrest Gump. There is a less than one-in-one-hundred chance that they'll be as intelligent (as per IQ).

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BLMadeMeRaysis 9 points ago +9 / -0

Did somebody read "Curse of the High IQ?"

Dare you tell a sympathetic midwit ear this, then they say, "Oh, it's not that bad!"

Yes, it is that bad. It's mentally painful. It's unbearable. I can't watch most TV. I can't stand most radio, unless it's only playing music, and then the ads start up and it's wincingly awful. I have to stream audio and video, and ad block everything because the stupid is so relentless. Forget social media. Forget the mainstream/legacy news. It's all so shallow and unrelentingly vapid. God help you if you open your mouth. Then you get to watch someone mentally disconnect from you in real time because you used three complex sentences in a row.

I spent the last few days browsing YouTube's reading tag. I sampled several dozen videos from as many creators, and it was just so stupid, so shallow, so thoughtless. Empty book consumerism, video listicles, the same book reviewed over and over, and here's my shelf tour!

Like/comment/subscribe/and/hit/the/notification/bell/so/you/don't/miss/a/video.

How do they make that all one word? I only found one person with an intellect so far (Leaf x Leaf), [and if anyone have any recommendations for YouTubers who talk about worthwhile books I would appreciate recommendations.]

It's rough out there.

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Demijinx 4 points ago +4 / -0

Check out AvE. He is violently Candadian and comes off initially as just a blue collar dude, that is good with his hands, but he knows something about everything. He's a sharp dude. Its nice to have pragmatic skills explained by smart people, instead of just endless philosophical naval gazing.

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Captain_Raamsley 1 point ago +2 / -1

It seems to me that there is a second tier of "midwit" that isn't actually less intelligent with IQ than smart people, but seem to go on tangents of half-meaningful philosophical naval gazing, as often and as long as they can.

I've noticed it most with musician YouTubers whom I occasionally catch some minutes of when my dad watches YouTube.

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WolfDownSnickers2 1 point ago +1 / -0

he is violently Canadian

I did not know this was a thing - but I like it!

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Demijinx 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol, watch it and you will understand pretty quickly. He talks almost exclusively in euphimisms or intentional mispronunciation. Takes a few shows to dial in to actually understand what the hell he is actually talking about.

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MaltaneseBoatswain 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fire of Learning has good historical documentaries.

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Captain_Raamsley 3 points ago +3 / -0

worthwhile books

Sadly I do not read past the first 50 pages of any books e.g. metaphysics of war because I'm a cringe non-book-completer

But there are some good YouTubers I like that discuss complex topics quite often:

Anton Petrov (he's a gold mine) Scott Manley Subject Zero science Two Minute Papers Joel Haver (ok this guy just makes funny skits. corny but hilarious) Technology Connections Economics Explained (this can be a little too dumbed down sometimes) Mark Felton Productions

And those are the ones really worth mentioning. It's all technically stuff except for Mark Felton (history) and Joel Haver (funny short films)

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Fabius 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lindy Beige if you like history.

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DrNilesCrane___ 1 point ago +2 / -1

My best friend and i both are in the 150s and have discussed how much happier we'd probably be if we were about 30 or 40 points lower. At least we have each other.

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sometimescanbefunny 2 points ago +2 / -0

My thought is that I would rather be intelligent and unhappy, with the ability to have so much more fulfillment out of life's mysteries, than be lulled into a quiet, happy daze through life like so many of the NPCs that I see around me.

Then again, that's effectively my take on life: my aim isn't to necessarily have a happy life, rather, it's to have a fulfilling and rich one, both for myself and my family.

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DrNilesCrane___ 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree. It's just a frustrating life that gets more frustrating as the general public gets more and more complacent. Sometimes I wish I could just watch sportsball and reality TV and be happy! But I do agree, I feel very fortunate to be able to grasp things quickly. I have never struggled with efficiently finishing tasks for school or work which leaves me with a lot of free time to enjoy life.

the ability to have so much more fulfillment out of life's mysteries

Beautifully stated.

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cholulaking 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't insult a pentium processor.

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Dspsblyuth 1 point ago +1 / -0

They are just dumb

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MageGills 25 points ago +25 / -0

I was under the impression that everyone could easily do this, before I saw this post. I'm confused.

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Captain_Raamsley 18 points ago +18 / -0

everyone could

No.... It's strange really, and I almost don't like to think about it. The NPC meme is real. I became aware of it about 6 months ago, I think.

You're special apparently. I'm gonna guess 90% of people on ConPro are between 3 and 1 on this scale

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MageGills 16 points ago +16 / -0

Just showed my wife this. She's apparently a 5 as well -_-

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Captain_Raamsley 22 points ago +22 / -0

F

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Call_Me_Kaiser 17 points ago +17 / -0

I'm sorry for your loss

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MageGills 14 points ago +14 / -0

Truth. She's a strong, beautiful, good Christian woman. A great wife/mother. She can handle all the womanly duties and I'll handle the rest.

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IceMilk 9 points ago +9 / -0

My wife has no inner monologue but can paint an apple and is a mathmagical genius

Everyone has different ways of processing information

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MageGills 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yeah my wife actually does some good painting as well.

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IceMilk 4 points ago +4 / -0

It’s not a good test of intelligence or aptitude or motivation. A motivated idiot will outperform a lazy genius in most jobs. Source: I am a lazy genius and by brother is a lazy super genius

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Dspsblyuth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is she a bad cook?

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MageGills 4 points ago +4 / -0

Lol naw she's a good woman.

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Dspsblyuth 2 points ago +2 / -0

How can someone who can’t visualize anything cook? Is it the same recipes over and over?

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MageGills 4 points ago +4 / -0

Lol I know right. She does new recipes fairly often. She has no problem visualizing things, but I guess it's just when she closes her eyes that she couldn't visualize the apple, according to her. I dunno.

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MageGills 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yeah I'm in the same boat. The NPC meme is absolutely legit.

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Stuka_Ju87 11 points ago +11 / -0

It's disorder and/or mental defect issue with no solution.

I've met many people who are like this.

I also had a ex gf who had the opposite issue. She did not have an internal monologue And couldn't see writing or experience voices in her mind, only images and scenes.

She was completely unemployable for this reason. Because she needed to see any instructions carried out. She could not even change a tire without seeing it be done first (this was before smart phones).

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Dspsblyuth 4 points ago +4 / -0

I can understand not being comfortable changing a tire without being shown but it’s very apparent what would need to be done. I think decades of rote “education” combined with the horrible job market that prioritizes experience over ability has caused this for large swaths of the population

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2016TrumpMAGA 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah. Mind blown. Again. First the inner monologue thing, now this.

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gachimuchi 21 points ago +27 / -6

I can imagine extremely detailed imagery of my penis going into your mother with bitmap and shadows. Even sound effects.

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Captain_Raamsley 14 points ago +14 / -0

Ngl I'm pretty firmly btfo right now

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gachimuchi 9 points ago +9 / -0

I just thought it would be funny lol. Not trying to be a jerk :)

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Captain_Raamsley 14 points ago +14 / -0

The "even sound effects" really got me

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 9 points ago +9 / -0

I had a cheap lol at your expense.

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Dspsblyuth 8 points ago +8 / -0

What resolution is disappointment in?

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Captain_Raamsley 4 points ago +4 / -0

Dayum

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gachimuchi 4 points ago +4 / -0

leme imagine you real quick... bitmap, shadows... its 1080p.

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Monky 3 points ago +3 / -0

r/nextfuckinglevel r/wholesome r/mademesmile

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FuckMcNuggets 1 point ago +1 / -0

But for real how do 5s jack off if they can't visualize images?

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antiniggerthesis 20 points ago +21 / -1

130-160+ IQ hands typed this post.

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Captain_Raamsley 26 points ago +26 / -0

I can be an absolute retard sometimes. But also I have come up with ideas that I know are in 1488+ IQ territory.

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IceMilk 5 points ago +5 / -0

Could also be ‘tism fingers brah

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inb4civilwar 12 points ago +12 / -0

I can too. I can see moving things, and entire scenes, like a boat on the sea, or actually people, waving at me . I can hear things too. I cant smell things. I can see the top of my house, and pull out like google maps, and zoom in to different areas too. I do this when I am going to sleep sometimes.

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zeppelincheetah 5 points ago +5 / -0

Wow I have nothing like that. Thats so cool!

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inb4civilwar 1 point ago +1 / -0

ITs kind of weird. I can echo my own voice in my head and make sound effects and stuff. I can also do experiments on geometrical shapes. All in all, if you have this type of thing, it can be more of a curse than anything else, bc it is so easy to get lost in your own head. You spend your life daydreaming. I never get externally bored though, bc I just retreat to my mind. What is fascinating to me, is that as above so below, in that life itself, and conscious intent reaches upwards, the will to power doesn't reveal itself necessarily as a function of dominance in tandem with our physical body, it grows as a shoot, it begins as a flower reaching for the sun, innocent as a child and Holy. Allow your own mind to create images on its own and learn to trust it, dont bother trying to see images given externally, your mind will give you images. Think of something growing, expounding out from your intellect to your minds field of vision. It can get very weird, this life force is innate to us, and you realize you are beginning to have a conversation with your soul.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_above,_so_below

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othala89 34 points ago +34 / -0

My ability to see things in my mind has diminished over time. As a child it was as natural as breathing, now I really have to concentrate hard to see things. Sad.

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Hail_to_the_king 30 points ago +33 / -3

mediate. you can strengthen your mind

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KingRigr 23 points ago +23 / -0

I believe I'm the same way. I have real vivid dreams still, so the power is there. But when I close my eyes all I see is black while still imagining the apple.

Now I remember smoking weed in High School and listening to some Mexican music... and I saw cartoons of smiling bananas with maracas in my head as if my mind was playing a cartoon that I could watch.

I think there's truth to what you say about a child's imagination.. and adult hood has crushed it.

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Dspsblyuth 8 points ago +8 / -0

If all you see if black then how are you imagining an apple? I don’t get it

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NigaroFagetsu-kun 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lmao being high-school high, those were some times lol.

Not that I would know anything about the devil or his lettuce of course

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PraiseBeToScience 1 point ago +4 / -3

Well I consider myself a 1, but I don't actually 'see' an apple. When I close my eyes I actually see only darkness. Pretty sure everyone is like that, I have no idea how you'd fall asleep otherwise. But to use my imagination, it's like a secondary form of conscious thought to 'construct' an apple in my mind.

It's as if when you normally see an apple, the light enters your eyes, goes to your visual cortex which creates the visible image, which connects to the fuck knows whatever that processes what you are seeing, which connects to memory to store it.

In the imagination, it's like it's working backwards. The memory is feeding into the fuck knows whatever to build a process, and then the visual cortex, or at least part of it, builds the idea of an apple. But because it's not fully engaged, it's not as if I actually close my eyes but it's like seeing a bright red apple in a black empty void.

I'm not a particularly creative person, so I would guess in creative people, the memory requires less engagement. I rely a little more heavily on imagery I've already seen and processed and understand. Complete psychopaths like H.R. Gieger isn't pulling what he creates from any memory, that's pure fabrication from nothing, for sure.

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Dspsblyuth 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not true. You don’t lose your imagination and people that have the ability don’t lose it since they can’t stop themselves from using it. It is what separates leaders from followers

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Dspsblyuth 2 points ago +2 / -0

The brain degrades as you age so I’m not sure we can say it’s only the imagination that does

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Dspsblyuth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because an aging person losing cognition across the board is not the same as a young person losing their imagination

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gachimuchi 13 points ago +13 / -0

You’re becoming an NPC.

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GloboHomoErectus 10 points ago +10 / -0

Read books at the same pace that you speak, take your time, perhaps even read paragraphs several times over again, this time with the conjured image of the location, or person projecting onto the book.

This comes naturally to me and reading novels takes quite the time for me as I often pause just to let the story unfold in front of me.

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othala89 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am a slow reader tbh. I'm reading Crime and Punishment atm, and I can visualise the scenes in the book when I try, it's just difficult to do so and to hold it for a time.

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gav_ 24 points ago +24 / -0

I could never imagine not having an ability to just see things in your head. How can you not?

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WhoIsThatMaskedMan 12 points ago +12 / -0

For me, I don't see things in my head, but I can...feel them, I guess? It's really hard to describe. I can replay a scene from a movie or picture an image in my head, but I don't actually see it. It's kind of like my brain is registering the information without actually recreating it. I really don't know how to explain it better than that.

If you tell me to imagine a photorealistic apple, sure, no problem. I can describe it like I'm looking at it in real life. But I'm not seeing it visually. It's more that I'm processing it on a purely informational level. Very strange, but that's how it's always been for me.

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Dspsblyuth 5 points ago +5 / -0

Still makes no sense how you describe it

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zeppelincheetah 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is how I see things too.

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PraiseBeToScience 0 points ago +3 / -3

I imagine it kind of like being the full visual processing of imagery that happens when your eyes are open, but the entire process is running backwards. I wonder if in creative people (which I'm not particularly one of), the memory (which is the final stop for visual processing) requires less engagement, letting them create more from nothing, while people like me who are less creative tend to rely a little more on things we've already seen or heard.

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FuckMcNuggets 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly this for me as well. It's more like a 3D view of it, you don't really see from a perspective but just feel the whole thing at once.

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throwaway777 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is me as well. I'm recalling the experience, I can do this while my eyes are open, like I can multi-task, someone asked in another thread to imagine your old home, and while reading in the back of my head I was recalling the experience of pulling up to an old home, turning around and looking up the hill where the road comes down, and then running around the house chasing an old friend.

My visuals are actually stronger when my eyes are open, I've had a strong peripheral vision that I've actively worked on through out my life, and I can focus on something to my side, without moving my eyes.

Though when I close my eyes, the first vision of an item looks like a negative, like #4, and then slowly, depending on how hard I want to flesh it out, other colors start to come in. Imagining things with my eyes open, I can experience the color and textures almost immediately. I believe this is because I worked so hard on my peripheral vision, I can disconnect my focus from what I'm looking at.

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LauriThorne 4 points ago +4 / -0

There's a condition called aphantasia where you can't do so voluntarily. People who don't have internal monolgues are just not thinking about things.

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MageGills 22 points ago +22 / -0

I'm really good at imagining a world without blacks and Jews in extremely vivid detail. I'm like a -2 at the least, using this scale.

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wellallright 21 points ago +21 / -0

So thats something i came across about a month ago, that not everyone has an internal monolog, apparently only 40% of the population do.

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Hail_to_the_king 8 points ago +9 / -1

more like sheepeople

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wellallright 6 points ago +8 / -2

Dive a bit into religion, but wonder if there is any correlation with NPCs or the braindead and being considered cut off from God or being of his “non-chosen” people

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Sneak_King 1 point ago +1 / -0

That study was that ~30% of the population reported an instance where they experienced a lack of inner monolog in the past month.

Basically the 30% had a moment of quiet in their head at some point and the other 70% weren't paying enough attention to say either way.

It doesn't mean 30% of people completely lack an inner monolog.

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wellallright 1 point ago +1 / -0

We must have come across separate studies…, one thing that backs what i mentioned, take a personal poll of people, i’ve done it with people i work with, theres a few that looked at me as if i had 2 heads and couldn't comprehend my question, even got the response “like you hear voices in your head?”

Saw a comment in the tread somewhere, from talking with people over the years, there are people who strictly dream in black and white and others that don't dream at all

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The_Gay_Deceiver 14 points ago +14 / -0

I can visualize things pretty vividly, even things like entire sequences of events, but it kind of depends on mood. Comes and goes, like I have to want to think about whatever it is, it's kind of hard to do it on demand. Thinking about an apple, for instance, the image fades really quickly and I have to keep deliberately conjuring it back up, I can't just close my eyes and stare at an apple for however long I want.

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PraiseBeToScience 1 point ago +4 / -3

Keep in mind that almost everyone's brain is notoriously lazy and it loves to take shortcuts and put you into 'holding patterns' when it thinks nothing is happening.

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TrustNo1 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah I'm confused too. I can imagine a red apple and place it on my kitchen counter but I don't actually "see" it it's just black. I can make it float in the air and I get this weird sense like apples don't float that's weird. It's kind of like remembering a dream?

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PraiseBeToScience 0 points ago +3 / -3

Well no, that's why it's imagination. If you actually saw something, as if your brain was looped back into your visual cortex, that's called hallucinations. If you actually are experiencing real life hallucinations every time you imagine something, that's pretty unique and probably pretty fucking awful.

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AgnosticTemplar 8 points ago +8 / -0

I can imagine a pretty clear image of an apple. then to test myself I start imagining details. My first thoughts are of rot, mold, flies, and worms turning the apple into a pulsating vile soup in a rapid time lapse. Then I start to imagine the smell. My god what is wrong with me?

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gandhideluxe88 8 points ago +8 / -0

All I see when I close my eyes is a greater German Reich.

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illuphantasm 7 points ago +7 / -0

One of the absolute best things you can do for your young children is to read them stories. (And not making baby noises at them; treat them like people.) Personally, I believe that having children stories read to you as a child is so beneficial that even people with average or mildly low IQ will grow to be functional adults.

Is there a possible correlation between your ability to mentally visualize and the stimulation received from listening to stories as a child?

To say it another way, even a child who should be high IQ probably cannot survive a childhood of Nickelodeon, Fortnite, and iPhones.

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Livid 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think there was a study that said reading every day aloud increases your testosterone, so it would benefit both, the child and reader. Not to mention bonding etc.

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Serathis 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'd love studies on this. Being read or told stories and later life imagination and creativity.

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FuckMcNuggets 1 point ago +1 / -0

Gonna read the lord of the rings and chronicles of narnia to my kids as soon as they can understand it

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BeefyBelisarius 7 points ago +7 / -0

So, can any of you other type 1 kings visualize the apple with your eyes open?

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NigaroFagetsu-kun 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think it's actually easier that way

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Scyphilla 7 points ago +7 / -0

I'm pretty sure kaleah was being ironic but this is pretty spooky.

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sn33d 5 points ago +5 / -0

NO!!!!!

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brillo 7 points ago +7 / -0

I see granny smith, green. Much better apple than Red Delicious. I can't believe people can't picture things in their heads.

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NigaroFagetsu-kun 3 points ago +3 / -0

Same actually. Weird

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SenseAntisense 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep, my apple is green as well. Glad I kept scrolling to find my people

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cholulaking 2 points ago +2 / -0

The image cued me to imagine a red apple, but I saw a gala apple at first. I can imagine any apple, but also imagine apple-like fruits.

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elodrian 7 points ago +7 / -0

I can visualize objects without difficulty but I can't imagine faces worth a damn. I recognize people when I see them, of course, but trying to picture them when they're not around just doesn't happen. I would be utterly useless talking to a police sketch artist. I remember what my parents look like; that's pretty much it.

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Captain_Raamsley 8 points ago +8 / -0

Funny. I can't remember people's names very well, but I can recall their faces like it's nothing

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elodrian 7 points ago +7 / -0

Im also bad with names, but that's not anything neurological; just that 98% of the people I meet I can't be bothered to remember.

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Serathis 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm like "I have been working with this team of 15 people in the factory, god I hope they will never find out that I still don't know everyones names"

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Careless_Ejaculator 7 points ago +7 / -0

I can't imagine a vivid picture of the whole apple, but can imagine the details one at a time. This doesn't seem to have inhibited my artistic abilities, but it does inhibit the overall planning of an art project.

I blame childhood vaccines.

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LilyVargas 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'm a 0. I see a image that looks as high definition as a real apple, rotate it around and change the lighting, have it rot or get eaten, not that jpgy shit haha

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rentfREEEE_since2016 6 points ago +6 / -0

Haven’t these retards ever had a fucking dream? Was it just floating in blackness? Wtf?

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gachimuchi 6 points ago +6 / -0

Damn, a lot of apple imagining self proclaimed super geniuses ITT.

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OrganicMolecules 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol, it’s hilarious. Sometimes I wonder if this internal monologue thing is something Jews will proclaim sets them apart from the goyim.

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Blergaderg 6 points ago +6 / -0

I can see things in my head pretty clearly, I can imagine myself even taking a bite out of it and if I concentrate on it really hard for I even get the taste in my mouth, but, it is very difficult for me to keep it going for longer then like... 10 or 15 seconds. I have images constantly flashing in my head, same thing with my thoughts, I just cannot turn it off. Always thinking. Most of the time it is dumb stuff.

Makes me think that when people say clear your mind for meditation they literally mean to stop thinking. And the people who can do that are all hippies, so the only people who can clear their minds are retarded.

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BeefyBelisarius 4 points ago +4 / -0

Makes me think that when people say clear your mind for meditation they literally mean to stop thinking.

Nah, stray thoughts never stop popping up, non-npcs clearing their mind to meditate just don't latch onto any of these thoughts. Just let them pop up and fade away naturally.

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supwemathitht 5 points ago +5 / -0

This ties in with something posted here recently, about people with IQ under 87 (blacks) not being capable of hypotheticals.

No imaginative ability whatsoever, yet they're lecturing you about "trust the science".

The faggot bragging that he has no internal monologue and his head is empty...lol too stupid to even have dignity.

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Formerlurker92 5 points ago +5 / -0

Every time I see this I hope these people are liars

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Zyzz1 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is not real.

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cholulaking 4 points ago +4 / -0

I am a 1. I can imagine bushels of apples from trees that never existed

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Unnotable 4 points ago +4 / -0

I find that when I'm imagining objects I tend to focus a lot on the feel and texture of the objects in my mind. I have my "mind's hands" I guess. I find myself imagining an apple and trying to crush it or make it burst from my grip force and the ensuing launch of apple juice and bits all over. I could also just be violent idk.

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NationalFervor 4 points ago +4 / -0

I fucking hate NPC's

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GayNigga 4 points ago +5 / -1

This thread: "Wow what dummys!! I can imagine the apple!! I must be smarter than they are and therefore better."

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gachimuchi 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hahahahaha, so many legit einsteins in here I can't handle it.

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OrganicMolecules 3 points ago +3 / -0

It happens, hopefully we all get humbled somewhat. Flattering yourself too much is bad for your health.

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konoplya 4 points ago +4 / -0

what the fuck.. i can taste an apple if i imagine biting into it. these people are fucking drones

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LiberalAtheistBrony 4 points ago +4 / -0

I've been noticing things lately:

  • Mind's eye vision
  • Conditional hypotheticals
  • The mirror test
  • internal monologues
  • "One, two, three, many" counting systems

These are important psychological phenomenon that I'd like to better understand from someone honest who's not trying to downplay or slander them.

Please leave a recommendation if you can for any legitimate scientific books that talk about these sorts of topics, how they are measured, in what populations and contexts they are tracked, how they were discovered, etc. (Is this something Charles Murray would talk about? I know his books are exhaustively researched but I have not read them.)

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zeppelincheetah 4 points ago +4 / -0

I have internal monologue just fine but I have trouble envisioning an apple in my head. I can still grasp the concept of apple without the visual though; it isn't like I lack the ability to abstract the idea of "apple" in my mind. Whenever I read books I can't visualize much at all and really descriptive text is wasted on me. I "get" what is being represented but I can't really "see" it, not properly. My IQ is about 125. I wonder how much screen addiction plays into these things.

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YurtsForTrump 4 points ago +4 / -0

Is this just how it is? Or another facet of the Jew’s attack?

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BLMadeMeRaysis 3 points ago +4 / -1

Imagine an apple challenge:

[TL;DR: Vivid description of an apple.]I see an apple in my minds eye, resting on a dark navy table cloth with a rusty brown out-of-focus background. The apple is a granny smith, vibrant white-speckled green across the widest part, with a slight fade to tawny brown green on the part near the dimple at the bottom. I look on it from above, where there is a slight yellow blush on the top of the apple to one side, where the apple was exposed most to the sun when it was on the tree. The light source is over my left shoulder, and I can see the glint of its reflection in the waxy skin of the apple, near the yellow blush and the dried brown stem. It's almost like looking at an oil painting still life with all the contrast of a Dutch master-style painting, and the colors are blocked in like brushstrokes. As the focus of my attention alights on any portion of the vignette, the detail resolves in my mind's eye. The navy tablecloth's weave becomes distinct when I focus on it, receding again to color blocks as my attention wanders to the green skin of the apple, which resolves itself into vertical green color bands with an overlay of the tawny brown and the pale freckles, and the dull shine of the waxy skin. My attention moves to the stem, which transforms from brown and grey color blocks to a wrinkled twig and a bulge at the end where it once connected to the tree.

I can envision in pencil, pen, watercolor, gauche, and oils (generally how I like to envision lots of colors with a painterly aesthetic), along with 3D computer program (helpful for moving shapes around in my mind), with and without "filters," and as if I'm watching a film (most realistic, also a favorite), and in first and third person. Maybe it's because I used to do so much art from imagination, but having a blank 5 is just beyond horror. I can't imagine being so... bereft.

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Critical 3 points ago +3 / -0

This & the internal monologue thing has me baffled.

I don't think this is rare, but I can easily envision things both in my mind / with eyes closed and in real life. I don't know if this is also related, but I can also envision the sounds of people's voices saying whatever I imagine. Also taste and smell as others have mentioned.

Also kek'd at: "Wait, people can actually SEE things in their head??? Not just?? Imagining an idea??

It doesn't take a genius to figure out the etymology of the word "imagine".

It'd be interesting to see how much childhood development has a role in this. For example I was very creative as a young child, constantly envisioning and drawing many things, had an imaginary friend to play fight and other dumb shit, etc. And I wonder if these skills can only be developed in that time frame. I've heard about a study where language skills can only be developed in a young person and past a certain age it's almost impossible teaching someone.

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SuburbanYute 3 points ago +3 / -0

i'm at a 4 with my eyes closed. if i keep my eyes open i'm at a 2. the only time its perfectly vivid is when i'm dreaming. like another commenter said, it's faded as i've gotten older. and i could for sure build the skill back up. but those folks who can't imagine that anyone even could. they've never had the ability. thats a whole other thing.

i will say though, schematic type stuff is easy for me to picture in my head. i can think of things like inputs, outputs, components, with lines going to other components. and i can keep it in my head for a few days. its how i planned the irrigation for my garden beds. stuff like that is easy for me once i can wrap my head around all the inputs and outputs.

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Smol_Gobbo 3 points ago +3 / -0

I can see an image if I concentrate, but I also see a bunch of psychedelic kaleidoscope shenanigans too no matter what, I sort of have to pull the image out of the noneuclidean mass to see it

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Captain_Raamsley 9 points ago +9 / -0

Are you closing your eyes too hard when you concentrate? That always gives me the kaleidoscope and sometimes I'd do it for fun as a kid.

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Smol_Gobbo 8 points ago +8 / -0

No, just constantly all the time whenever my eyes are closed

There’s also always music playing in my head at all times

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Captain_Raamsley 6 points ago +6 / -0

Kinda based but you should get that checked out by a non-jew

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NigaroFagetsu-kun 2 points ago +2 / -0

Have you ever taken large amounts of psychedelics? Do you have synesthesia?

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DT777 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe you’re not getting enough REM sleep.

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Josemarti 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm thankful for the here otherwise I'd think my brain is wired differently than theirs and that mine was weird.

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OrganicMolecules 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s really not about seeing, which I believe is what the retards in OP think we’re talking about.

Can you imagine an apple? Congratulations you are normal.

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perpetual_notion 3 points ago +3 / -0

I blame childhood vaccines and their neurotoxic components, Brave New World style chemical inhibition of brain development. It would be easy enough to create billions of mentally crippled peasants designed to fill the lower roles of society by merely poisoning a child's brain before that child's brain has much developed.

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Flammenwerfer 3 points ago +3 / -0

I always get a 1 but also always imagine the apple gently plopping onto white ground and standing up straight, like in a Blender testing animation.

Is this normal?

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2016TrumpMAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

I knew there were a small percentage of people who could see imagined images just like they were physically there (I don't mean #1, I mean actually see like they were in a star trek style holodeck), I had no idea that the rest of us saw anything except #1 quality.

Fuck.

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alexander-rysing 2 points ago +2 / -0
  1. Very obviously 1. 2 can only be seen by someone who has only seen 2d pictures of an apple but never a real apple. 3 and 4 by people who cannot imagine a color. 5 by NPCs.
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covok48 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hmmm we just talked about this recently and the a Twitter meme just magically appears? That totally happened. Totally.

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Medicnz3 2 points ago +2 / -0

NPC test.

Also, “do you have an inner voice when you think about things”

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