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SauronWasFramed 40 points ago +40 / -0

And yet, somehow, billions of years ago, a mass of earth and gas, suddenly blew up and has been expanding to form our universe. I guess the mass spontaneously generated as well as the energy to blow it up.

Stupid kids are stupid

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BillboDickens 18 points ago +18 / -0

And then one day, for no reason at all... The universe expanded, order arose from chaos, and life spontaneously occurred from nothing.

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nimbullnavigator 4 points ago +4 / -0

And 6 million cookies were baked

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PhrankTheTank 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fun Fact: Russian newspapers published that 6 million Jewish lives were at risk if communism arose in the country

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Unnotable 4 points ago +4 / -0

People have a difficult time admitting they are wrong. How can this man say with a good conscious that the ideas he has held dearly are incorrect? He won't and can't. He is weak, weak people believe weak ideas. Weak ideas form from a need to avoid consequences. The purpose this man looks for is not to live for the good of the world, his people, or a set of ideals. This person lives for worldly satisfaction and if he were to believe in a religion, especially Christianity, his desires to get simple stimulation would be shut down by his guilty thoughts. He cannot endure the guilt of sin, so he rejects the concept of it entirely, despite that nagging gut feeling that says he is wrong.

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SauronWasFramed 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep. You have to let go of your pride and ego.

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KarenKarenKaren 2 points ago +4 / -2

Steve from How To Hunt on YouTube pointed out that all animals fear man, wolves who will kill grizzly, grizzly that will kill moose and this dude has hunted everything and he said Orcas who kill everything that get into the water including moose when they cross salt water will not harm humans. And then he said “maybe there is something to this religious angle”

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Notablitheringidiot 8 points ago +8 / -0

that all animals fear man

Utter bullshit.

Badgers, Bull Elephants, Bears, Sharks among many others won’t hesitate for a second to attack humans.

Tigers kill dozens of humans every year in India.

It’s remarks like that that make atheists think we all have poor critical thinking skills and its embarrassing.

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PunchMeInTheBalls 1 point ago +2 / -1

Lol was gonna say, go swimming with a salt water crocodiles - they fear nothing

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KarenKarenKaren -2 points ago +1 / -3

Well you must be a hoot at parties

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shadow1500 -19 points ago +2 / -21

At least Science one day might discover why. God won't show Himself to us you can't guarantee there's a God.

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LeadingBrilliant 18 points ago +18 / -0

Drop a ball on the ground. That is God, the creator and His laws which are in constant and unwavering effect.

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Notablitheringidiot -3 points ago +1 / -4

Except in a black hole right?

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LeadingBrilliant 4 points ago +4 / -0

What is a black hole? Do you have proof that one exists? Do you think they're supernatural?

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Notablitheringidiot -2 points ago +1 / -3

Do you have proof that one exists?

Holy shit dude, the irony of your questioning is killing my sides 🤣

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LeadingBrilliant 2 points ago +2 / -0

So no you don't.

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Notablitheringidiot 0 points ago +2 / -2

No I don’t. So what’s your point? I don’t necessarily believe in black holes, hence why I ended my first sentence in a “?”

I’m just trying to, you know, offer differing viewpoints instead of wallowing in a circle-jerk like 90% of this board does

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shadow1500 -5 points ago +1 / -6
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WeedleTLiar 7 points ago +7 / -0

No, it won't.

Take a look a the current and ongoing reproducibility crisis. Teams testing the same hypothesis, using the same data, come to contradictory conclusions as often as not.

Science can confirm common sense, that's about it.

Don't place your faith in science, place it in engineering where results are the price of entry.

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jsother1 3 points ago +3 / -0

God will have His people before science ever finds anything. You think you’ll be able to time travel one day or something?

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shadow1500 -1 points ago +1 / -2

No but I want evidence before I devote my life to someone.

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defaultskin 2 points ago +2 / -0

science will one day find out? i don't think so.

science is a slow, stupid lady, and she only hangs out around slow, stupid humans.

we'll never find out about what's inside of the sun. i mean, we can discuss about it, and come to a conclusion that's 99.999% probable to be correct, but we'll never actually get to see the inside of the sun, and so we'll never know for sure.

science, when challenged past all of a human's basic senses, is pure guessing. it takes a special kind of selfishness (and overestimating your own brain) to think otherwise.

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el_hoovy 1 point ago +1 / -0

sounds like weird religious stuff but you're literally right. though we're pretty likely to be correct about a lot of stuff, pretty much all theoretical science is advanced guesswork. i still wonder how much of that quantum stuff is total bullshit because nobody can ever actually see it, just trust that the machines they make to measure it all are correct.

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shadow1500 -1 points ago +1 / -2

At least science is based on discovery and evidence. Yes there is a lot of guesswork, but if the technology is there and it is affordable scientist can look for evidence. With God we just have to have faith, which is also guesswork.

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okay_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can you account for why induction works? Or why we should continue to trust the knowledge that we have gained, or think we have gained, by continuing to use it?

Induction is the foundation of the scientific method. Without it science literally doesn't work. Without it, we can literally know nothing. It's sometimes commonly referred to as the uniformity of nature. The idea that we can take past events and use them as a basis for making claims about future events.

We generally think that the observations we make are able to justify some expectations or predictions about observations we have not yet made, as well as general claims that go beyond the observed. For example, the observation that bread of a certain appearance has thus far been nourishing seems to justify the expectation that the next similar piece of bread I eat will also be nourishing, as well as the claim that bread of this sort is generally nourishing. Such inferences from the observed to the unobserved, or to general laws, are known as “inductive inferences”.

The theist can account for the uniformity of nature because God created the universe, and designed it in such a way that there is order to it.

Now, you the atheist must account for why induction works. If you cannot, then you must admit that you live by faith and you also must stop using that as "evidence" that science is somehow superior to a belief in God. If you want to be logically consistent, that is.

This is a well known philosophical dilemma, sometimes referred to as "Hume's problem" or the "problem of induction". There is no logically consistent way for the atheist to account for induction.

Therefore, good sir, your religion requires just as much faith as mine does.

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BasedMan000 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not at all. Read Summa Theologica, the sacred doctrine can be considered a science to a degree.

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yudsfpbc 1 point ago +1 / -0

If God appeared and used his powers to alter an experiment, we would get angry at God for messing up our experiment and tell him to get out of the way.

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hkdlxohk 23 points ago +23 / -0

Ironic how atheists ridicule us as "flat earther conspirators" when it would actually make more sense that atheists are the flat earthers, since they both refuse to observe beyond what they can see.

"I can't see any God, therefore there is no God": atheist

"I can't see the Earth's curvature, therefore the Earth is flat": flat earther

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LeadingBrilliant 6 points ago +6 / -0

But I herd a super smart science negro say it was round!

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KarenKarenKaren 3 points ago +3 / -0

science octaroon

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RightSideFunding 17 points ago +17 / -0

Everynight when we dream, we create worlds with our Magical Powers.

This Mo should consider whether or not He is a Phantom in Gods dream

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EUssr 14 points ago +14 / -0

critical thinking

no trace of individual thought

repeats "fairy tales" that it picked up elsewhere in every paragraph

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othala89 14 points ago +15 / -1

They assume that my understanding of God is the same as their (lack of) understanding of God.

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WeedleTLiar 3 points ago +3 / -0

Who have you ever met that actually believes in unicorns and fairies?

This person is talking completely out of their ass.

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Birmig 13 points ago +13 / -0

What an unscientific point of view.

Research has shown that religiousness is genetically hereditary and it correlates with positive life outcomes. Every populations have evolve religiousness, it's evolutionary important.

This midwit believes in falsehood despite scientific evidences to the contrary, this is definitely worse than believing something without any observable evidence.

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The_Gay_Deceiver 12 points ago +12 / -0

They never realize that they're religious about their beliefs just like Christians are. They also refuse to acknowledge how beneficial our Christian-forged society has been for them. They just assume it's how it is in spite of Christianity, which makes it clear how little they understand about it.

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PrezElectHamsandwich 9 points ago +9 / -0

I agree with that, but I think there is a place for atheism, although it is a temporary one. It's like a desert that must be crossed in order to reach true knowledge of God. If you take atheism seriously, and you don't get sucked into the void of nihilism, you'll eventually rediscover him after a long and difficult journey.

That's why I try not to hate on atheists, because they're just like wanderers who got lost in the desert. As a Christian, the right thing to do is to give them some water (hope) and point them in the right direction, unless their brains are so fried that they won't accept help.

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Crockett 10 points ago +10 / -0

Wrong. Atheism is not for the braindead. It is for midwits.

I'm a recovering atheist myself. I recognize all the sentiments in that post. In every single facet, it is experience and maturity that has made me realize just how distant those simplifications are from real religious understanding.

The atheist looks down on the low IQ idiot who says "my mom told me unicorns exist." But real religious belief for actual thinkers is far more intertwined with the apparent patterns and uncertainties of the reality.

If I asked my past self about demons, he would think of horned hell creatures that physically manifest and trick people. And if I said that much of moral corruption could and should be regarded as demonic possession, he would dismiss that as a fruitless metaphor at best. Flimsy metaphysical cop-out at worst. But since then, my conception of what can be "real" has expanded. Perhaps rather than demonic corruption being a metaphor (ostensibly analogous, but empirically disconnected), it is instead an intangible reality (fully real, but on a dimension of experience that transcends the material).

It is there, in the possibility of an objective yet intangible reality which nonetheless governs the reality we experience, where religion lives. We imagine angels and simulations because we can conceive of them materially. But icons can represent elements of deeper truth. Religion is the process of trying to perceive that truth through our material lens.

But sure, it's all just "Muh bearded sky daddy".

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Unnotable 2 points ago +2 / -0

To be a midwit is to be comfortable, average, just in-line with what you "should" be. With the case of an Atheist, it's easy to just stay in a little comfort zone where thinking about the truth of the universe is far too simple, so that you don't have to waste your energy on believing in this moral code that shows you what things really are. To be a midwit Atheist just gives an excuse to spare mental hardship of the guilt of sin, to spare yourself from uncertainty of the pit of fire or eternal life. It is easy to just say "well life simply just ends" and leave it at that. It's too much for these people to think about, so they just go with the one that makes the most secular sense.

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FaithfulAndTrue 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm with you brother. It is moronic to think that all Christians are idiots, as many if not all atheists do. Are the greatest minds of our past all actually a bunch of idiots? Isaac Newton? Was he a simpleton? These midwits just don't get it. The Bible is deeep. When you really study it, when the prophecies really pop for you, you realize that this isn't the work of man. Everything does make sense.

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SubtleTea 9 points ago +9 / -0

These same people:

Covid is destroying our society and the only way to fight it is to Trust The Science™!😩

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JohnDurham4 1 point ago +1 / -0

communism is the answer. History proves this! I heard it on TV

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TheWestYearZero 8 points ago +8 / -0

doubtless he doesn't include buddhists in this derogation.

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ParadigmShift2070 10 points ago +10 / -0

or Muslims, or jews, they only shit on Christianity. so brave

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doodlebob 4 points ago +4 / -0

And whenever you bring this up to them, the reply you get 99% of the time is "b-but Christianity affects our daily lives more!!!!"

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AB-IXOYE 7 points ago +7 / -0

“Indoctrination makes people gullible”….

Oh goy!…

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ResistingDegeneracy 7 points ago +7 / -0

Most "atheists" aren't really atheists. Most believe in the religion of science. I'm 100% sure he blindly believes whatever "scientists" say without thinking for himself.

I'm sure he believes in the big bang which there is no proof of and makes no sense.

He aslo believes that if a man injects himself with hormones and cuts his dick off he is now a woman.

He belives that feeding SSRIs to kids is fine and that forcing people to inject experimental vaccines for a flu is reasonable.

He isn't an atheist he just believes in a religion that says "science" is an all knowing god.

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JohnDurham4 1 point ago +1 / -0

They don’t know what science is. If they did they would realize there’s a reason most of the greatest scientists were not atheist

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TakenusernameA 6 points ago +7 / -1

NEGATIVE

IQ

God's existence is obvious if you are capable of recognizing patterns.

People with low IQ have difficulty recognizing patterns.

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shadow1500 2 points ago +4 / -2

Please explain, I'm still waiting for someone to convince me of a God.

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Practical_Courage 2 points ago +2 / -0

The existence of the shroud single-handedly proves the supernatural abilities of Christ.

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shadow1500 0 points ago +2 / -2

How so?

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Practical_Courage 1 point ago +1 / -0

It seems as though the 4chan screencap post I saved on here has been deleted, but long story short, there's plenty of evidence surrounding information present in the shroud surrounding Christ's death that was unknown in Medieval times, such as the location of the nail wound. While most medieval artists portray the wounds in the palms, crucifixions were usually carried out on the wrists, which the shroud accurately portrays. There are also many studies that have been conducted on the shroud, most of which verify its authenticity, especially one which identified various plant species through pollen that would tie it to Jerusalem

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PunchMeInTheBalls 2 points ago +4 / -2

To have one human body be able survive for 24 hours thanks to a team of doctors controlling everything (blinking, sphincter control, liver, kidneys, heart, brain, spinal cord) would be a scientific achievement beyond words.

To have 7 billion people alive and well full-time requires a God more powerful than we can understand.

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shadow1500 1 point ago +2 / -1

"To have 7 billion people alive and well full-time requires a God more powerful than we can understand."

That's not evidence, that's just guessing or Faith....

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PunchMeInTheBalls 0 points ago +1 / -1

Alright, well I feel I’m a bit outmatched here. I’ll leave you to it buddy, I surrender.

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Killroyomega 1 point ago +1 / -0

Causality cannot be broken without divinity.

Do you believe in free will?

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Barian84 0 points ago +1 / -1

Have you tried not sucking dicks for a while?

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PunchMeInTheBalls 6 points ago +7 / -1

Ah, to be 14 again..

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coyim_shiller 5 points ago +5 / -0

why do redditards keep getting posted here? and by handshakes specificaly, seems like ragebait to me imo

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Notablitheringidiot 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m so fucking tired of discussing religion on a board about earthly problems like hypercapitalism.

Yes, save your soul, but lets fucking talk about saving our skin a bit more.

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okay_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

Changing the hearts of people is the only way out of this. It is precisely because we have abandoned God that we are suffering now. We will continue to suffer as long as we deny Him.

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inb4civilwar 4 points ago +4 / -0

I believe in Christ, but also evolution, the Big Bang, physics, etc. Most Christian religions do now, they are by no means mutually exclusive. Its leadership from churches that have always had uneducated peoples that still push nonsense. The Big Bang theory was postulated by a priest.

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inb4civilwar 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, exactly. God said let there be light, and created us in His image, and this earthly process is how that happened. The blink of an eye in the Creators time, but billions of years of evolution for us.

If we could see the Face of God we would surely go insane immediately, but usurious jews and dipshit evangelicals think they are God.

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PlainFries 2 points ago +2 / -0

Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

I doubt that flat earth creationists are lukewarm.

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Notablitheringidiot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Doesn’t the Catholic Church neither confirm nor deny its belief in evoloution?

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TarquinusCollatinus 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's more accurate that the Church's stance is officially neutral on the issue.

It says that a Catholic can hold any position in regards to evolution (and the origins of the universe in general) provided it doesn't conflict with God's creation of the universe and all humans being descended from Adam and Eve and thereby original sin/the Fall.

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inb4civilwar 1 point ago +1 / -0

Im not sure to be honest. I thought they did.

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TarquinusCollatinus 1 point ago +1 / -0

Same, there are a lot of things I find troubling about the creationist side, especially young-earth creationism.

The biggest issue for me from a theological perspective is that creationism (YEC especially) either requires God to intentionally deceive us though His creation or for Satan to have actual creative power.

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dutchgroyper 0 points ago +1 / -1

Old and New testament won’t make sense if evolution is real. Monkey to human is nonsense

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inb4civilwar 1 point ago +1 / -0

australopithecus to homo habilis to home erectus to homo sapien, essentially. With Neanderthal evolving in the North and Denisovan in the East, with both species being pushed south the Middle East during the Younger Dryas, when it was either venture South or die. They have found a shrine in the Levant that is actually separate skulls that co mingled during this venture.

By the way, the entire world is Neanderthal outside of SubSaharan Africa. Its literally Neanderthals vs Nons.

Have you ever wondered why they haven't sequenced Homo Habilis and Homo Erectus. lol.

Monke evolved along side humans, or at least what we see today.

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WeedleTLiar 4 points ago +4 / -0

99% of religious people only believe in their particular religion because they were indoctrinated into it...

Why do you think you're an atheist?

I love telling people that I was raised atheist but am drifting away from it as I grow older. The seethe is real.

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Fabius 4 points ago +4 / -0

If life just "popped out of nowhere" billions of years ago because of "earth-like" conditions, shouldn't more life have simply popped out of nowhere in the billions of years since we've been here? After all, don't we still have earth-like conditions?

Why only one big bang? It's been billions of years. You'd think that there would have been more of them.

Objectively, atheism is just as implausible as a creator.

"Who created God?" they ask.

"What existed before the big bang?" we reply.

"Nothing." they say.

"Nobody" we reply.

It's a stupid debate, which is why it's mostly propagated by arrogant children.

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jsother1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Or if everything can just evolve to meet any environment then why don’t we see life on every planet? This is intelligent design

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okay_ 2 points ago +2 / -0

Both positions require faith, but there are philosophically sound reasons for believing in a God that created the universe and everything in it. It's unlikely that our conception of God is very accurate, that's not really the point.

Atheism is just "God hasn't appeared before me yet, so I refuse to believe" or "Bad things happen, why would a just God allow that, he must not exist". Atheism is presented as intellectually superior, but at the end of the day, most of their arguments boil down to appeals to emotion.

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Anophthalmus 4 points ago +4 / -0

"If God no real, why gud thing happen?"

~Grug, circa 1000 B.C. u/#grug

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BillboDickens 4 points ago +4 / -0

This guy won't reproduce because the polar bears needs some ice to stand on. The only way atheism persists is through our garbage public education system, where the real indoctrination occurs.

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FloorGypsy 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you don't believe that God is the Highest Authority, than you believe that man is and should be the highest authority.

What is the highest authority of man? Politicians and billionaires. Believing that their words should be law is not a wise decision.

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Cedar89 3 points ago +3 / -0

Same people wearing masks and triple vaccinated , consuming everything free masons put out, who believe atheists are vulgar and profane

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LeadingBrilliant 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fun fact

The original particle is known to science as the "God Particle."

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Unnotable 2 points ago +2 / -0

"No observable evidence"

Have you yourself observed why gravity happens? Well you clearly see it, no doubt, the object you drop falls down. Simple. You understand that the more mass there is the more gravity, yet HOW does that gravity work? How? You can't observe the true reason for those forces, you only understand that those forces are there, not why. That's how I see this, you can observe the acts of God without getting a specific detailed reasoning for how he does it or not. God is an ever present force, much as gravity.

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Idontevenknow 2 points ago +2 / -0

They are simply lost. Helping them to the path is the way. Forcing people on the path goes as well for them as forcing us into the camps will go.

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Homopratensis2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Guy repeats himself too much.

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yudsfpbc 1 point ago +1 / -0

Belief is fairies and sprites is bad, but invisible, undetectable matter and energy is SCIENCE! Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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JohnDurham4 1 point ago +1 / -0

haha you have unsophisticated views!

(expresses the exact same argument as every dipshit 15 year old on earth who first considers theology from a purely materialistic standpoint)

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HadrianTheGreat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oy vey, we better downvote this one goys! Thanks ADL, super cool!

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Killroyomega 1 point ago +1 / -0

What is it with atheists and leftists and stretching a single statement into multiple paragraphs?

There's no new information or discussion past the second(which is still the first) paragraph. He just restates the same point over and over and over and over.

I imagine it has something to do with retarded college and grant writing standards which reward people for including pointless bloat in their writing.

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deeplydisturbed1 1 point ago +1 / -0

People who do not believe my unbelievable story are stupid.

Got it.

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dutchgroyper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Observable evidence lol. Then what is time, potential, consciousness, morality.

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okay_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

The ones who attempt to be logically consistent will say morality doesn't really exist. Not an objective morality, anyway. But if you watch them they will eventually start complaining about some wrong someone has done to them, or some injustice they see in the world.

Wrong according to who? Injustice based on what principle or standard?

If there is no God, then there is no standard of right and wrong. Everything is permitted. All that matters is who has the bigger stick and can force the other to bend to his will.

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Notablitheringidiot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Anti-consumer board?

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PhrankTheTank 1 point ago +1 / -0

Me but with potheads

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shadow1500 0 points ago +7 / -7

I like how no one disproves him. No one provides evidence only Faith™

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GigaChad 1 point ago +2 / -1

Just trust the plan! We're stuck in a world created by god that is also full of niggers and Jews that want us dead, but it's all by intelligent design!