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mrscorpio 63 points ago +63 / -0

NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST COME OVER HERE AND EXTERMINATE US BECAUSE WE ARE SAVAGES WHO LIKE TO SACRIFICE BABIES NOOOOOO

Sí.

u/#Lyes

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Monky 19 points ago +20 / -1

NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST COME OVER HERE AND EXTERMINATE US BECAUSE WE ARE SAVAGES WHO LIKE TO SACRIFICE BABIES NOOOOOO

Yeah, you can’t do that! That’s antisemitic!

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EJGeneric 35 points ago +35 / -0

Authentic Azteca street tacos would of contained human flesh.

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ParadigmShift2070 10 points ago +10 / -0

as far as I'm concerned, aztecs are just ohioans with better foods

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Ragnar09 9 points ago +9 / -0

Indeed. The west thought they could indulge in degeneracy for ever with no consequence but the time to pay is arriving.

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 3 points ago +3 / -0

I love my people and my nation, but I cannot honestly argue that america doesn't deserve the judgment of God over abortion.

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's actually the point I have come to. I used to be a patriotic 'murican, but now I feel allegiance only to the kingdom of God and my race.

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shadow1500 -14 points ago +3 / -17

Like the Christians were any better? They were cold blooded murderers, who murdered anyone who didn't believe in their God.

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SmellsLikeTelAviv 17 points ago +18 / -1

Good

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BatMitzvahAtEpsteins 0 points ago +2 / -2

they castrated their own boys to sing in choirs

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shadow1500 -4 points ago +1 / -5

So muslims are evil for doing so but not christians?

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shadow1500 -1 points ago +1 / -2

How do you know God is real? There's no evidence for His existence.

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the-new-style 1 point ago +1 / -0

Existence is a feature of material reality. God is supernatural ergo cannot exist, which is why He came to us as Jesus Christ.

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shadow1500 1 point ago +1 / -0

What a convenient excuse.

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active_shooter -1 points ago +1 / -2

Yes, because X are wrong and Y are right. X's worship Q, not R. So because Y are right and X are wrong, you are exactly correct.

makesperfectsense.gif

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dutchgroyper 14 points ago +15 / -1

Based Christians

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thesneederman 4 points ago +4 / -0

they'd be based if they didn't worship satan and were less corrupt.

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fourleaved 3 points ago +3 / -0

Dude, agnosticism was gay from the start and atheism has been cringe for years. Go read some scripture

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shadow1500 0 points ago +1 / -1

Why would I?

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fuck off handshake.

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TeaPahrTay 4 points ago +4 / -0

Where? You mean the ones dismembering children, throwing them into deep caves, and burning newlyweds alive so that it would rain?

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shadow1500 -5 points ago +1 / -6

Christians spread their religion during the colonising age.

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TeaPahrTay 5 points ago +5 / -0

Okay. Who did they wipe out who didn't engage in that kind of horrific shit that should cause anyone who witnesses it to get a sword or gun in their hands ASAP and start wiping out demonic freaks.

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shadow1500 -1 points ago +1 / -2

They killed innocent people as well including children

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thesneederman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't tolerate intolerance isn't that right? Those guys invaded first, killed and made enuchs of Christians, and then got what they deserved. Either that or they were so technologically inferior it was a blessing to conquer them and help them gain some semblance of society.

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shadow1500 -4 points ago +1 / -5

The Christians invaded first...

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thesneederman 3 points ago +3 / -0

In the new world the Aztecs threatened Spains holdings and invaded Spanish allies ritually, they were fucking evil people too.

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shadow1500 0 points ago +1 / -1

Spain didn't belong there, they should have stayed in Europe.

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

They used to. They should again.

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BigBeef 21 points ago +21 / -0

Virgin Aztec VS Chad Conquistador. No we’re not sorry.

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CertifiedFaggot42 18 points ago +18 / -0

I have to wonder what the Americas would be without the Spanish and later other colonists. They certainly wouldn't be civilised in the slightest degree.

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TallestSkil 17 points ago +22 / -5

They’d be white. The Spaniards took the catholic approach of “fuck them into obedience” while the British method was “exterminate them and repopulate with whites.” If the Spaniards had done the right thing, all of Latin America would be white rather than a horrendous mix of dozens of genetic percentages and an interminable hellhole.

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TarquinusCollatinus 19 points ago +19 / -0

The British didn't really exterminate the natives, there just weren't that many around to begin with. There were only a few million in all of the modern-day US and Canada compared to something like 50 million in Mexico, the Caribbean and Central/South America.

There were wars and diseases that caused a lot of deaths but the British preferred to work with natives where possible to help counter the threat from France, especially the Iroquois.

What's interesting is there were way more Spanish who emigrated to their colonies in the Americas compared to the British. Of course a lot of them were unmarried men so you know what happened next...

The Thirteen Colonies' population growth was driven mostly by colonists having children and the migrants were usually whole families.

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paulrnelson 5 points ago +5 / -0

There was also apparently a plague that wiped out something like 80% of the native population so it was a lot easier for colonists to take over the natives than other places the brits colonized, like india.

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when_we_win_remember 3 points ago +3 / -0

Civilization and the population level were at a sort of nadir when Europeans showed up. Though it was all stone age, Central America had seen better days. Then the diseases came and finished off whatever civilization remained. It did not however exterminate the native genes. Survivors carried them and were strong enough to reproduce with a lot of race mixing.

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Blursed2021 1 point ago +1 / -0

How many is way more Spanish versus British immigration?

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TheWestYearZero 3 points ago +3 / -0

They imported coons

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KarenKarenKaren 7 points ago +7 / -0

Uh… you obviously have never met a woman. If a space human showed up with a space hot rod and a space sword with a a space force field leaving bullets and bombs useless- you’d better believe that Susie rotten crotch would be having his babies over yours.

Same principle - Horses, Guns, and Steel are sexy.

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TeaPahrTay 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah, I HIGHLY doubt marriages or even casual sex between attractive native women and Conquistadors was typically forced. Hypergamy would have been off the charts.

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KarenKarenKaren 3 points ago +3 / -0

Absolutely!

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KarenKarenKaren 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh I just remembered an anecdote- 50% of Chileans are interrelated by 14 conquistadors- they was bangin’

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TeaPahrTay 2 points ago +2 / -0

DAMN.

#LifeGoals

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rablecti 1 point ago +1 / -0

Spaniards took 7 - 9 young girls for them and procreated at will. Imagine today the opportunity to travel to some lawless land where you'll be considered a god (or have the capability to force them to treat you as one) and be able to exclusively fuck hot, pretty gals at whim.

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TeaPahrTay 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you aren't dismembering them, cutting out their still beating hearts, or burning them alive, you're doing 1,000,000x better than their own people would.

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when_we_win_remember 1 point ago +1 / -0

I mean slavery was not uncommon, so it wasn't all voluntary. The Spanish, I think, wanted to enslave all the Indians, but they didn't make very good slaves. Kept escaping, revolting, etc. So blacks were brought in.

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TeaPahrTay 1 point ago +1 / -0

The slavery came after the war, which the Aztecs lost, and slavery of your enemies was common across the world. Still is.

Hell, the Aztecs typically cut the hearts out of surrendered enemies so a conquistator says "dig for gold" and takes a single attractive girl and has kids with her?

That's lightyears more civilized than the Aztecs treated their enemies.

And I would very much doubt that unwilling sex happened between native women and Spanish men. They were considered gods. Unless you took someone's wife, which would not be cool, I doubt it took much persuasion to convince a nubile native girl to come live in the stockade and be your wife and bear your kids and maybe even get to visit the land of the gods you came from.

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RandolphCarter 5 points ago +6 / -1

Correct. We genocided our native problem. They had sex with theirs.

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KarenKarenKaren 5 points ago +6 / -1

If you look even slightly into the story of Jeremiah Johnson and the mountain men you’ll find that many many anglos were extremely attracted to the Natives and their way of life. I believe, knowing how fickle women are, that the Native American population was folded into the new Anglo population. Yes there are remnant of pure Natives in the reservations (post Civil War) prior to that the Natives on the east coast had mostly folded into the Anglos especially in the NE, the exception is the Cherokee which were booted out of the low country by Jackson (iirc) probably because they supported the Seminole revolt (iirc)

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Julius_Severus 5 points ago +5 / -0

The Anglos didn't really develop a complex semi-feudal caste system (see the chart in the following link) the way the Spanish did in their colonies.

https://91b6be3bd2294a24b7b5-da4c182123f5956a3d22aa43eb816232.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/contentItem-11050631-102170616-d1wwudi0xw0hd-or.png

Mixed race children in the British American colonies were usually considered black or amerindian, even before the single drop rule was legally codified.

The leader of the Red Stick Creeks (Andrew Jackson's nemesis) was a 3/4 white guy named William Weatherford.

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RandolphCarter 4 points ago +4 / -0

I, myself, have a touch of prairie nigger DNA as a result of that process.

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KarenKarenKaren 3 points ago +3 / -0

Samesies

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AltKnight1453 2 points ago +2 / -0

Or as my friends say, Timber Nigger.

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TeaPahrTay 1 point ago +1 / -0

LMAO

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TeaPahrTay 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, we didn't.

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Anarcho-Catholic 3 points ago +3 / -0

And what about the French who also took the Catholic approach? How are people in Quebec completely white? You're leaving out a ton of important factors. There were barely any natives in North America when compared to central. There were barely any natives in Argentina and Uruguay as well and they're mostly European.

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TallestSkil 1 point ago +1 / -0

what about the French

You may remember the Métis…

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TarquinusCollatinus 1 point ago +1 / -0

The French definitely did not genocide the natives. Alliances with native tribes were how they were able to defend New France for an extended period despite a much smaller population than the Thirteen Colonies.

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donaldo_dil_trumpini 2 points ago +2 / -0

yeah, here in Puerto Rico Spaniards fucked all of the woman natives, Puerto Ricans are something like 60% Iberian, they truly went into a fuckfest.

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Berglewits 5 points ago +5 / -0

Exactly the same as it was 500 years ago, just like how 500 years ago it was exactly the same as it was 500 years prior.

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Pelides 11 points ago +11 / -0

From the Wikipedia page on the Neolithic age (new Stone Age)

In Northern Europe, the Neolithic lasted until about 1700 BCE, while in China it extended until 1200 BCE. Other parts of the world (including Oceania and the northern regions of the Americas) remained broadly in the Neolithic stage of development until European contact.[1]

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 2 points ago +2 / -0

It would be Africa West.

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uder5 14 points ago +14 / -0

the vast majority of natives americans died due to disease that they had no immunity from, not from some intentional slaughter. it doesn't matter which group of people showed up to the americas first. the natives were mostly isolated from the rest of the world and would have been eventually exposed to disease anyway, and they would have perished. if it wasn't the spanish, some other group would have exposed them.

arabs, europeans, asians, and africans had been interacting with each other's filthy asses for centuries and had developed tons of immunities already.

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TeaPahrTay 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah, I'm so sick and tired of the smallpox blankets bullshit. That came from one history professor 20 years ago or something who wrote a book.

Yes, I'm sure the British concocted an evil bio-warfare plan 200 to 300 years before germ theory was discovered.

It was known that dead bodies of people and animals could spread disease but that was based on the idea that putrefaction and "vapours" were what caused it. Hence the Middle Ages weird Plague masks filled with flowers that supposedly stopped the disease if you couldn't smell it.

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uder5 1 point ago +1 / -0

for sure. the idea that the natives died because europeans slaughtered them all is a total myth. something like 80 percent of native americans perished before christopher colombus even made it to the "new world."

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TeaPahrTay 3 points ago +3 / -0

That and virtually all wars between the Americans and the Indians were instigated by the Indians because they had no concept of treaties. Not in the European sense. We spent almost 300 years saying "We're making a deal, you live here, we live there. If we disagree, your chief and our chief talk. No killing."

But they always settled disputes the way they knew. Killing. Women and children too. So when our Army stepped in and curb-stomped them and then said "OK FUCKERS. HERE'S THE FUCKING DEAL NO KILLING. YOU LIVE THERE. WE LIVE HERE. IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, BIG CHIEFS TALK."

And they went out and killed people who crossed their border anyway. In an era before GPS or any kind of survey grade maps.

So, soon they met the Gatling gun and repeating rifle and the shit was stopped real fast and stopped for good.

They can take pride in their warrior history, I suppose, but don't you point fingers at white people. You started pretty much all the shit all the time. And you got your asses kicked all the time. You had 300 years to decide "Maybe we don't get our asses kicked and we stay in this huge area we agreed the Americans don't claim."

But no. That was too European of an idea.

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Antisemite-I-Guess [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

I know, but the Aztec Empire collapsed from the Spaniard's arrival

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pertivi 12 points ago +12 / -0

Environmental determinism :

Aztecs/Mayas had writing but a shitty political system and no knowledge of metals outside gold

Muisca had knowledge of bronze but no advanced political system or writing

Inca had fantastic political system but no useful metallurgy or writing.

Between them mountains, jungles and cannibals.

Now take all three and place Muisca in Mesopotamia, Aztecs/Mayas in Egypt and Inca in Anatolia substituting Sumerians, Egyptians and Hittites.

Human sacrifice was also very common among IndoEuropeans and Semites, Sumerians and pre-IE Europeans had it too.,

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ParadigmShift2070 6 points ago +6 / -0

Chinese also had it during ancient times

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TarquinusCollatinus 4 points ago +4 / -0

Also in Europe during the pre-classical era although it had long since died out in the Greek world by the time of Homer. Rome itself formally outlawed it in 97 BC but it hadn't existed in practice for a long time.

It did survive in Central/Eastern Europe up until the conversion of these areas to Christianity. However, in all of these cases it was never close to the scale of what the Aztecs and Mayans did.

The Carthaginians were said to perform child sacrifice but it's not clear if that's true since the only sources that mention this are all Roman and are extremely biased. The Bible also mentions the sacrifices to Moloch that were said to occur among the Canaanites.

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Blursed2021 2 points ago +2 / -0

There's been material evidence discovered of child sacrifice in Carthage.

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systemthrowaway 2 points ago +3 / -1

Don't forget the Hohokam in Arizona that had the most advanced canal system in the world at the time.

American Indians were pretty damn smart, similar to Asians. They were mostly stuck in the stone age due to environmental factors.

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Blursed2021 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah bullshit on the environmental factors.

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systemthrowaway 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why?

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Blursed2021 2 points ago +2 / -0

Indians ate all of the possible draft animals. That's one example. The animal husbandry that was done practiced no genetic breeding.

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systemthrowaway 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think those aren't really indicators of genetic intelligence.

Draft animals likely went extinct there for a large variety of reasons, not just them eating them all.

Genetic breeding was surely an accidental discovery in the old world, American Indians probably just never had the chance to notice.

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Blursed2021 1 point ago +1 / -0

Like I said, animal husbandry is one example. Same thing exists with plant genetics. Political organization. Material science. There were outliers with some of these but nobody got it all together. There's clear evidence of humans being in North America for 23,000 years. That's thousands of years with horses, wolves, camels, buffalo. None of these were domesticated and were instead eradicated.

How can you say genetic breeding was an accident when it takes dozens of generations?

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systemthrowaway 1 point ago +1 / -0

There's clear evidence of humans being in North America for 23,000 years. That's thousands of years with horses, wolves, camels, buffalo. None of these were domesticated and were instead eradicated.

It also took us tens of thousands of years to domesticate anything, it was probably luck that they didn't go extinct before we could. In fact we did hunt potentially useful animals to extinction such as mammoths.

How can you say genetic breeding was an accident when it takes dozens of generations?

The initial discovery was an accident. It's entirely possible American Indians never ran into that initital discovery.

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TheWestYearZero 12 points ago +12 / -0

Conquistador: Cortes, Montezuma and The Last Stand of the Aztecs

https://en.id1lib.org/book/2636792/acc5da

Astonishing story.

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Oldpederaulfuerte 10 points ago +10 / -0

Piggy backing on this, I highly recommend "The History and Conquest of New Spain" by Bernal Diaz de Castillo https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-discovery-and-conquest-of-mexico_bernal-daz-del-castillo/250442/item/5492882/?gclid=CjwKCAjw7rWKBhAtEiwAJ3CWLBhQXzdQI0PXFnKebfU7LkvjZgrAHoOc3XFp03zDyvQFPYf3_oVZExoCpSEQAvD_BwE#idiq=5492882&edition=2346580, it's a first hand account from one of Cortez's soldiers and is absolutely fascinating. He documents how advanced their city was, fountains, markets, etc, but then he also documented how one of Montezuma's favorite meals was basically barbecued little boy arms. It's why the Spanish destruction of Mexico City was so brutal and complete.

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TheWestYearZero 8 points ago +8 / -0

And another source for the same book.

https://en.id1lib.org/book/1089333/b7c921

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Oldpederaulfuerte 6 points ago +6 / -0

Great link, didn't know about this site, much appreciated!

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TeaPahrTay 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's why the Spanish destruction of Mexico City was so brutal and complete.

The only appropriate way to handle a society that sacrifices children, especially so brutally.

And yes, we can expect the same fate although I suspect due to the configuration of our society and how most of the country thoroughly rejects such degeneracy its going to be more of a Israel vs Judah situation regarding our largely red areas vs the blue cities.

If everything goes tits up for even 6 months and food, water, and power aren't supplied to the cities, there will be tens of millions of dead Left wingers who will get exactly what they voted for.

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gamexa 11 points ago +11 / -0

Right after taking their country back from the Muslims and expelling the Jews.

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RandolphCarter 8 points ago +8 / -0

I remember when I was a kid and my dad and I were discussing the Conquistadores. He said “Cortez did a good days work stamping out that barbarism”

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SubtleTea 8 points ago +8 / -0

ANOTHER triumph of Christianity over meme religions.

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ParadigmShift2070 8 points ago +8 / -0

what a bunch of bad asses

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shadow1500 -8 points ago +1 / -9

You mean invaders?

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Julius_Severus 5 points ago +5 / -0

Conquering isn't badass?

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shadow1500 -1 points ago +1 / -2

So muslims are badass for trying to 'conquer' Europe?

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Julius_Severus 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes

and the Europeans who stopped them were also badasses

The current Europeans who have thrown open the gates are not

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Blursed2021 1 point ago +1 / -0

You can put it in quotes but yes they tried to invade Europe. And now they're reinvading. We just lack a Charles Martel this time around.

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shadow1500 0 points ago +1 / -1

No difference between christians and muslims since they both were spread through conquest.

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Blursed2021 1 point ago +2 / -1

Imagine being this dumb

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shadow1500 1 point ago +1 / -0

You would know.

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TriumphoftheSwill 7 points ago +7 / -0

If the Spanish never reached them the Aztecs would have destroyed every other tribe and their cultures for hundreds of miles. They were much more brutal than people realize. I'm sure when the Spaniards showed up all the other tribes got their popcorn out.

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fourleaved 5 points ago +5 / -0

At the end of Apocalypto, when the Spanish arrive to triumphant music

"As a devout Catholic, Director Mel Gibson was trying to portray the deeply racist narrative that the arrival of the Spanish as a noble end to Native Savagery"

yes u/#yes

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SmashJewishSupremacy 4 points ago +4 / -0

Imagina no apoyando el imperio glorioso de España. bruh momento absoluto

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barwhack 4 points ago +4 / -0

And now they're falling to that culture again.

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Lopied1 3 points ago +4 / -1

Genuinely love the Spanish empire. Beautiful and it’s catholic

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BatMitzvahAtEpsteins 2 points ago +3 / -1

catholics were castrating their own boys to sing in choirs as recently as 150 years ago

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Lopied1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Boooo prod

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rablecti 2 points ago +2 / -0

They also ended the common practice of Sodomy, which in the Caribbean islands was practiced randomly on the spot at any time of the day.

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the-new-style 1 point ago +1 / -0

Still is

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gragas17 1 point ago +1 / -0

Where is this image from? I remember seeing it as a loading screen for American Conquest, but nowhere else

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Antisemite-I-Guess [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Image tab on DDG search, use term "spaniards conquering aztec"

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gragas17 1 point ago +1 / -0

thanks

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donaldo_dil_trumpini 1 point ago +1 / -0

based conquistadores.

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

If the Aztecs weren’t the ultimate shit heads to everyone around them, they wouldn’t have been destroyed. He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.

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lemonjuice 1 point ago +1 / -0

They didn't finish the job, now we have spics.

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DeplorableGerman -2 points ago +4 / -6

"mUh HwUaIt EtHnO sTaTe!" "Non-European Native ethnostates bad!" ... The absolute state of ConsumeProduct. You're all fucking troglofags who've never read a book about ancient europe or ancient anything ever. Go on. Downvote me. Your ancestors would be ashamed of you. And i'm not talking about uncle Billy who served during the ACW.

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Blursed2021 3 points ago +3 / -0

What?

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Remantro 2 points ago +2 / -0

I would maybe hear you out but you can't sound coherent for even a sentence. Maybe take a couple days off and come back when you're done seething.

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DeplorableGerman 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am seething because on one hand you people extol the white ethnostate while in the same breath denouncing native cultures and faiths.

I stand by what i said: Your forebears would be ashamed of you people.

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BigGoyCock4JewBois 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am seething

Indeed you are, now let me up in that hebrew manhole so I can salt your matzahs.

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That_guy_88 2 points ago +2 / -0

Then what should happen? Should all whites in the Americas and other places they conquered move to Europe?

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DeplorableGerman 1 point ago +1 / -0

No. You have already wrought the damage and the destruction. What would help would be if you literal Neo-Nazis from VOAT would stop being literal Neo-Nazis from VOAT. And another thing that would help would be if people learned about the cultures and faiths of their forebears, so that they know what they lost and may one day reclaim. It is already happening in Europa, there are places where native faiths are being openly practiced again, under protection of law. Iceland is another place where native faith is being practiced again.

"SHOUT IT FROM THE HILLTOPS! PROCLAIM IT ON THE PLAINS! THE ANCIENT GODS WILL NEVER DIE ONCE WE INVOKE THEIR NAMES!"

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BigGoyCock4JewBois 1 point ago +1 / -0

You have already wrought the damage

The only damage I'm gonna do is to that pretty jewish manhole of yours, bwoa, now bite the pillow.

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BigGoyCock4JewBois 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hey pretty boi, spread dem cheeks.

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