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posted ago by happybillmoney ago by happybillmoney +92 / -2

Hello fellow consumers,

As always thank you to everyone that participated in the last weekly and remember you are Operation MONKE!

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NOTE: Great weekly. Lots of recipes to try. Do post photos if you made any of these. And a big shoutout to our new mod u/RightSideFunding for stepping up to run community projects.


This Weeks Discussion Theme: Consume PC Building

Apologies if this isn’t the weekly that was voted on. Something isn’t right about the last poll since it’s not recording votes correctly.

Anyway, this weekly is on PC Building. Despite what many here might say PC building can be an anti-consumer activity. In that you are rejecting brands, and pre-builds. Choosing your own parts based on price and performance for your own needs is always superior to buying something just because it’s new Brand™. Additionally, some of us require laptops for work or school but do you really need the newest Brand™? These kinds of ideas are what this weekly is about.

Discussion ideas:

  • Share your rig.
  • Offer PC building tips.
  • Suggest laptop/tablet buying advice

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muh_products 28 points ago +28 / -0

Pro tip: you probably don't need to upgrade your computer unless you want +5 fps in the latest LGBT shooter. You can easily use a 10 year old Thinkpad as a daily computer as we've long ago reached the point of 'good enough' computers. You couldn't use a 2001 computer in 2011 though you can use a 2011 computer in 2021. Even for vidya, if you have one of the old 6 core i7s and a top of the line gpu from that era you will manage games on low.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

https://www.fanbyte.com/lists/27-other-overwatch-heroes-that-are-also-gay/ https://archive.is/wip/mCLIN

https://www.intomore.com/culture/the-queerest-characters-in-overwatch-ranked/ https://archive.is/wip/gN0wC

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-46795596 https://archive.is/wip/jVZyH

-LGBT characters are 'educating' gamers

Why Overwatch's Gay Characters Are So Important

Another central Overwatch character has an LGBT backstory

Which of the Overwatch characters are gay?

Yes, 'Overwatch' Making Both Soldier: 76 And Tracer Gay Is A Big Deal

and "Overwatch 2 Needs To Treat Its Queer Characters With More Respect"

and im done reading all this gay shit, lmao

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YEETveteran8888 4 points ago +4 / -0

I still use a 2014 think pad laptop. Works fine for everything but gooming. I replaced the screen myself with nothing but a Phillips screw driver. Battery is external, and panels on the back come off to replace ram and SSD.

I don’t play games much anymore but I built a low end gaming pc in 2013 and frankly it still runs shit just fine. … Jesus come to think of it I think it still runs windows 7 🤔

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

Any pcs that run 10+11 are inherintly untrustworthy. stock up on repairable computers now if you need one, bros, because its only going to get worse with W11.

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80960KA 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm still on a ca. 2014 desktop, switching to SSD made a world of difference in responsiveness in day to day tasks and is a cheap upgrade. Only thing I really find myself wanting is more RAM, 16GB is just barely enough these days for serious use (dev VMs and shit).

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MaskConnoisseur2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm planning on buying a mini PC of some sort to save on space and energy, but all I need is hardware powerful enough to render retro and indie titles at 1440p/60-144fps. I'm rarely interested in any AAA release aside from Nintendo and Capcom.

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FuckReddit4545 2 points ago +2 / -0

My 1080 is still chewing through 1440p.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

Mini pc of sorts, thats gonna cost ya, Why dont you just buy a GAMING laptop? which games are you aiming for, maskc?

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MaskConnoisseur2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah certain Minis seem to be a tad overpriced. I actually DO have a gaming laptop right now, but it takes up quite a bit of room and I use it more as a desktop than a laptop anyway. The games I'm looking to run are mostly retro 2D and 3D titles, indie games, and the occasional AAA release from companies like Nintendo, Capcom and maybe Microsoft.

I'm eyeing the rumored AMD Rembrandt APUs which are slated for release next year. Those are going to be a major leap for mini PCs, no doubt.

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Electronicscreen0 20 points ago +20 / -0

Rig specs: 2070 super, 3300x for the cpu, 32 gb of ram and an MSI x570 for the mother board.

My pc tips: never get a fucking gaming pc lmao. This shit ruined my life for a period of time. All I did was consume video games instead of having any real hobbies. I’ve barely touched my pc ever since I’ve taken up going to the gym and debating. Do not buy a pc if you lack self control like me.

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Half_alive 5 points ago +5 / -0

I think there is room in a king’s life for a gaming pc or a gaming console. Local multiplayer is still a great bonding activity for friends and family.

You can also limit the games you play to the ones that aren’t designed to hook you and keep you playing for hundreds of hours. Stay away from all online multiplayer (unless it’s online co-op with a friend) and stay the hell away from rogue-likes/lites that require a huge time investment to build skill and unlock the full game.

I exclusively play online co-op with a good friend or shorter (<30 hours) single player games with engaging stories and fun gameplay.

The Dark Souls series is my current favorite because of the sheer depth of the worlds they created and the way the game rewards you for learning and improoving your actual skill & strategy. It is difficult, yet fair. And there is absolutely ZERO woke garbage. Just turn off multiplayer and you don’t have to deal with the sacks of shit that invade you with ridiculously overpowered meta builds.

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systemthrowaway 4 points ago +4 / -0

A great bonding activity I've found is actually VR, if you can afford it of course. Talking to friends and family while they fumble around your room fighting monsters is hilarious. It's really easy for them to get into.

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cutefroggy 18 points ago +20 / -2

I'm surprised this is here. I think this easily goes into consooom. I mean it's a good skill but you could easily nerd out on it. I switched out a hard drive on added ram to my computer. I can't really build one now. It would not be worth it since it would be difficult to take to back home with me.

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marikiri 19 points ago +19 / -0

It's only bad if you need to CONSOOM the yearly graphics card so you can get 420fps in your vidya games vs last years 415fps

upgrading a PC once every 5+ years should be enough

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Half_alive 5 points ago +5 / -0

upgrading a PC once every 5+ years should be enough

You can get at least 10 years out of a build if you get quality parts. The only reason you need to rebuild is a fried motherboard or unavailable replacements parts due to an older motherboard.

I’m running a 9 year old build right now. I’ve update the GPU once and added RAM. Had to replace a burnt out power supply recently. Swapped the entire case once to accommodate a large CPU liquid cooler for reduced noise.

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FreudianLisp 5 points ago +5 / -0

Same here. Built 9 years ago for ~$1200. Added RAM a few years later. Ugraded my 740 for a 960, and only because a friend was offering it for $40. Prior to that I had no intention of upgrading anything and now definitely don't need to. Almost a decade later, and I have yet to come across a game that isn't playable, though to be fair I really don't play big AAA games very often.

It won't do the highest settings at 120fps but who cares. There are very few things I give less of a fuck about than accurately real-time rendered subsurface scattering of photons on the skin of the virtual characters in a game I use to waste a couple hours per week.

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BidenLikesMiners 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most of the games that need a beefier card are woke shit anyways, so having a 980 or lower is a responsible idea. Plus lower power reqs.

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FreudianLisp 1 point ago +1 / -0

If I really want to play a new game I can easily just drop a few settings. People look at me like I have a third ear when I tell them that I don't give a shit about 60 fps. Hell, I hardly care about 30 fps. 20 is usually fine.

I was playing modded MC once and my roommate looked over my shoulder and said "wtf, how can you even play like that??" I was confused at first because I literally didn't realize that it was hovering around 10 fps. You just have to play for a little while and you can acclimatize to anything.

...That's the point I decided to buy more RAM though. It started dipping sub-10fps on that save and I was noticing the slideshow more after he pointed it out.

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happybillmoney [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

I'm surprised this is here

Yeah me too actually. I expected this topic might not be big with everyone. However kings ought to be versed in many subjects.

Anyway simple things like changing ram are highly difficult / impossible on say any Apple™ using the m1 chip. Even most windows laptops are made to be disposable. Oh no your USB port stopped working. No soldering a usb port just won't work because the motherboard was designed with a flimsy peg sticking out that physically snapped. Good luck finding a new motherboard. Just buy a new laptop and make it the newest one out there why your at it. It's a more than just a right to repair issue. It's that manufacturers are basically building most things now with planned planned obsolescence. You can beat them by building your own pc and at a lower price. Imagine if you could do the same for a car.

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marikiri 6 points ago +6 / -0

Imagine if you could do the same for a car

The jew hates the street-illegal go kart

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80960KA 3 points ago +3 / -0

You can beat them by building your own pc and at a lower price. Imagine if you could do the same for a car.

Fix up and drive older cars. Not like a "new" car is really fundamentally different from a ca. 2000s car unless it's electric. Personally I don't want all the built in electronic infotainment crap because it's all cloud-tied and will be obsolete inside of 10 years anyway. With an old car, I can just put in a double DIN head unit if I want Apple CockPlay or whatever the current spec is.

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caravanofdeath 6 points ago +6 / -0

Consumerism is defined as the preoccupation with the acquisition of user goods. This implies the person gaining happiness from the act of consumption itself, rather than consuming as a matter of necessity. These days owning some form of computation is important, most jobs now require some form of internet access. Thus, purchasing computer components intelligently is preferable to consumption based on marketing, brand loyalty, hype, or whatever else typically drive consoomers into buying RTX 3090 cards.

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80960KA 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm not out to live an ascetic life, if I was I'd probably become a monk.

There's a difference between going out and buying a newer version of something you own because the TV said so, and buying stuff to complete your own projects or make your own workflows better.

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BidenLikesMiners 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think this easily goes into consooom. I mean it's a good skill but you could easily nerd out on it.

People buy $200 sandals. I think the aspect of being able to REPLACE broken components makes this an anti consooomer choice, average people will replace a pc when something brakes, and waste ~1500 in the process.

And smarter consoooming will save us money and time in the long run, by not having to toss out cheap premade pcs, many of those today are built to fail, incl from apple and MS.

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cutefroggy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah others argued the same point to me already. Also it's good to know how your own stuff works in general rather rely on others to do it for you.

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Mentalwobbling 16 points ago +16 / -0

My rig is a raspberry pi 4 with 4gb ram hooked up to my tv screen as monitor lol. Its actually workable as daily driver and only costs like 30 bucks. I'm very much into linux configuration, so I just remade the same config I had on previous computers.

When my last laptop broke down I was really set on the anti-consumption thing and didn't want to spend even remotely the amount that computers were going for in stores here. It runs a little slow sometimes but other than that it works fine for me

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RightSideFunding 4 points ago +4 / -0

cool dude

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cutefroggy 1 point ago +1 / -0

You've surpassed us all in anti consumption.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think pi 4 is $40, but yes, good and power efficient choice. But it tops out at Nn64 for games (and complex software will be barely runnable).

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sn33d 11 points ago +11 / -0

PC building? I'd rather put my time somewhere else.

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suckhole 9 points ago +10 / -1

The virgin $2500 gaming rig

The chad $250 laptop for basic daily computing tasks

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

The chad $250 laptop is plastic and built to last for 2-3 years. a $1000 gaming pc would last much longer, and have more power controls, upgradibility, and even repairs that many cheap laptops dont have anymore. a lot of $200ish laptops are paperweights when the harddrive goes out. Which WILL happen eventually.

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HingusTheBungus 2 points ago +4 / -2

Like....?

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ambiently 12 points ago +12 / -0

Putting clothespins on his balls... lmao

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HingusTheBungus 4 points ago +4 / -0

Carpentry and Balsa Treatment?

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MasterChef 10 points ago +10 / -0

So where are people getting their parts? I want to build a new one, but there is such a shortage that I could sell my current used graphics card for more than I bought it.

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marikiri 7 points ago +7 / -0

Holy shit you aren't kidding, spent $200 on a gfx card 3 years ago that's now going for almost $800

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MasterChef 6 points ago +7 / -1

Bit coin mining, and if you believe the news a chip shortage

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Half_alive 7 points ago +8 / -1

Artificial shortage. I think it’s part of a grander strategy to force everyone into cloud-based platforms that can be strictly controlled by a particular group of people.

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zzbg 7 points ago +8 / -1

I mean the supplyside of the shortage might be artificial, but the fact that manufacturer's can't get chips isn't. It is seriously interrupting stuff like my current industry, which has absolutely nothing to gain by hooking all this up to the cloud. (automotive)

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MasterChef 4 points ago +4 / -0

I've been meaning to ask someone in the automotive industry. With the chip shortage is there any talk about making some models of cars without all the bells and whistles? Just something that turns on and drives with maybe a radio, but for a cheaper price? I'm not a fan of all the extra features they put in new cars, but mine is starting to age a bit.

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zzbg 5 points ago +6 / -1

From what I've seen, not really. The big issue with the chip shortage has not been the 'bells and whistles'. That certainly is being hit, but the issue is that the 'bells and whistles' have become intrinsically tied into the functional aspects of the car.

Virtually every new-manufacture, for example, of any package has a shift-by-wire system now. Just with that one system, you're contending with three separate shortages; precision magnets, precision sensors, and chips.

And if the shortage was long enough / bad enough I could see them rolling back to some older tech (cable shifters, cutting down the computerized shit in the dash, reducing self-driving stuff, etc) but we are talking like decade+ timescales. The industry works years in advance, and attempting to remove that stuff from cars slated to be manufactured next year would mean many different systems going back to the drawing board in a process that can typically take ~5 years. I highly doubt that this shortage is going to be that long. I think that this shortage is demand-side, not supply-side, and is a side effect of everyone having a ton of free time at home combined with extra money over the last year, combined with the shipping issues caused with the Evergiven. The 'stockpile' was used up, and it's going to take awhile to catch back up, but it's not like the mines are running dry.

And on top of that, a lot of things just can't be manufactured without chip-infused technoshit. Environmental Regs in particular force new make cars to have quite a bit of computerization just in system monitoring and non-user level systems controls.

Basically, this is my prediction: Cars are never going to get simpler. Like everything else, they will be crammed with useless shit because that is the only way to sell them now that the market is largely uniform. You might see a rise in availability of lesser packages on car lots, but most of the computerization is engrained in the vehicle systems and is not something that you can simply 'cut out' at production.

Worst case scenario, the chip shortage gets even worse / carries on for many years, the automakers just get bailed out by the government, and when the shortage lessens / a new technology is discovered that can replace our reliance on foreign silicone they go right back to the same tech-heavy crap.

If you want a car that is just a car, you had better get REALLY good at Cubaning your vehicles. I highly doubt that there exists a single 'unplugged' vehicle on a new lot in this current year. Your best option would be hunting around for something like a early 2010's diesel truck: low mileage is good, but if high and the frame is good it's worth a motor swap. Low-package ones are great; so are company ones, although company ones used are usually beat to shit. These are right on that edge of computerization, and there exist people / guides on how to do a total delete of the environmental stuff, which leaves you only with diagnostics, and though I haven't done it I believe there are workaround for that as well.

All I've really heard / read in publication seems to show that the OEM strategy is pretty much just chopping production and weathering the storm.

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drjillsusedscrunchie 6 points ago +6 / -0

I came to this thread for ideas on where to get computer parts, and stayed for the even more relevant info on the current auto chip shortage. Thanks bro

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

We should come up with a way to remove all the computer shit, if its even possible, at all.

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80960KA 1 point ago +1 / -0

Part of the problem is a lot of the sophisticated sensors and networking exists to support more and more mandated safety features just like the environmental controls. They couldn't get rid of it even if they wanted to, because the car would be unsellable.

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80960KA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not just mining (and it's not bitcoin, but that's subtle). GPUs are used in tons of high performance compute applications, gamers are competing for big low yield chips with both miners and supercomputers.

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MasterChef 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm just remembering now too that engineering aps, and photo software generally takes a beefy gpu to run.

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80960KA 2 points ago +2 / -0

CAD these days is on the lightweight side of GPU use, but a lot of things are accelerating computation with GPU now too so it depends on what you're doing. If you make parts in Fusion360 to CNC and never simulate them, a old GPU is gonna be fine, but if you want like fluid dynamics you're probably gonna want one.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

engineering and video

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Half_alive 4 points ago +4 / -0

Don’t build a new one if you don’t have to. Spend your money on cheap incremental upgrades (max out your RAM slots, SSD/M.2 storage, better/quieter cpu cooler) or better peripherals if you don’t have a quality set.

Do a fresh OS installation on a fast new hard drive and it will feel like a brand new computer.

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MasterChef 2 points ago +2 / -0

Have any recommendations for a good ssd drive? I'm looking for a 1 or 2 TB.

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Half_alive 3 points ago +3 / -0

I’m running a Samsung EVO 500GB SSD for about 5 years and no problems so far. Been running a WD 1TB Black (7500rpm) HDD for the whole life of my build. Probably should replace the HDD now that I think about it :/

look into M.2 storage if you MoBo is compatible.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

samsung was switching out their chips for cheaper ones in their evos, but its hard to say if other brands are much better. I dont believe in the faggot ssd shit because its a consoom of the highest order, 4-5x the price of more reliable media. your black is 7200 and it should be fine to keep using, that is primo hdd shit bro. 5 year warranty, too. lots of ssds will fail before 5 years. and you pay way more for it.

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AlmostBased 9 points ago +9 / -0

I'm gonna omit the two funny letters and talk about building.

I build all the time. I build my own furniture, tile my own kitchen and bathroom, and soon an outdoor oven. All my tables and chairs in my house have been built by me. I even built my own bed frame. I am far from perfect and don't have all the necessary tools, but it helps me sleep at night knowing I'm denying some department store kike its coins.

Carpentry is cool.

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el_hoovy 3 points ago +3 / -0

are material prices shooting up in your country too? wood and metal here are 3x the price from 2020, which frankly is insane. building my own wood and sheet metal toolshed probably cost me as much as buying one of those premade metal ones.

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AlmostBased 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes it has, though it is going down. With good enough craftmanship, it is very much worth building your own. Meat prices has risen too.

I don't like buying premade metals ones because they don't look good and break easily for some reason. Most of these consumer quality furniture are built for stupid people who can't follow basic lego instructions. All the good ones cost a lot.

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arebee 3 points ago +3 / -0

Carpentry is cool. Why am I retarded when it comes to this stuff. Does rebuilding a transfer case in a 4x4 count as “building” stuff?

I need more skills.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

Absolutely. REBUILDING is just as important as building. it keeps your products out of a landfill, and money in your wallet. items that CANT be rebuilt are the ultimate CONSOOOM cope.

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zzbg 1 point ago +3 / -2

To answer you question I don't think so, unless you were like milling your own parts.

Even if it's very difficult and you do have a good skill, most vehicle repair is still just an extremely complex assembly. Building is starting from nothing, making your components, and then using those components to a final product. You are meaningfully involved in every level.

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80960KA 1 point ago +1 / -0

Does rebuilding a transfer case in a 4x4 count as “building” stuff?

Yeah, most people won't even touch a gearbox. It's even usually referred to as a "built" transmission when someone makes one for racing.

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Blursed2021 1 point ago +3 / -2

You're only giving money to department store kikes if you choose to.

Good on you for building your own stuff though.

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marikiri 8 points ago +8 / -0

my rig

RX580, Ryzen 2600, 16GB ram

too bad video games are shit nowadays, havent bought a new game since Doom Eternal

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MGTAU 3 points ago +3 / -0

Good point. Last new good goom I played was Doom

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

Same, but doom 2016. the colors in II seemed too fischer price for a demonIC gME.

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MasterChef 3 points ago +3 / -0

i7-5820k, GTX 1080, 16GB ram

I mostly play GBA, and SNES emulations. Fire emblem, metroid, and the like. Was getting excited to boot up killing floor 2 again until tripwire got rid of the CEO for being pro life. Oh well.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ironic how the ceo was against abortion.

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Half_alive 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s certainly not worth building a top of the line gaming PC today when nearly every company with the resources to build a AAA game (the only reason to have the newest hardware) is entirely beholden to the woke faggots and feminists.

You can build/maintain a quality rig, using previous gen or midrange parts, which will still be capable of running everything except VR-only games.

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Half_alive 6 points ago +6 / -0

Do not build a new PC right now, the prices are insane. Buy a used one or upgrade/maintain your existing build. Some pre-builds are worth the money because the builders get bulk pricing for the components and they offer good customer support; but do your research.

I’m running a 9 year old build (~2012) with all midrange “best bang for the buck” quality parts. Added a bit of RAM. Added a CPU liquid cooler + radiator to reduce running noise (and swapped the case for a bigger one to accommodate it). Bought a newer GPU from a friend for cheap. And recently replaced a burned out power supply. You can easily and economically keep a pc running for 10+ years, especially if you don’t care about the latest/greatest tech, maximum FPS (100 is quite enough) and stupid high resolution.

The biggest thing to consider buying right now is high quality peripherals because those are your daily interface with your machine and they really never go obsolete. I’m running a scepter 1440p ultra wide monitor and Corsair mouse + keyboard + headset. The ultra wide monitor is a GAME CHANGER if you typically use dual monitors for work or gooming and I couldn’t recommend it enough. Seriously, try an ultra wide monitor if you haven’t yet, you’ll never go back to dual screens. Corsair parts are riddled with goomer RGB lighting, but their peripherals are excellent and their over-ear headphones are comfortable enough to wear for 4+ hours (I am extremely picky about headphones comfort).

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Emacs 3 points ago +3 / -0

The biggest thing to consider buying right now is high quality peripherals because those are your daily interface with your machine and they really never go obsolete.

I'm considering getting a new keyboard. Looking at some compact mechanical keyboards with topre switches (really quiet mechanical switches). I do almost every task on my computer using my keyboard as the primary way of interacting with software and having my current loud keyboard is starting to bother me.

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Half_alive 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m not familiar with topre switches. I use Cherry MX brown which feels like a good balance. They are light and tactile yet quiet (but not silent).

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dont get mechanical then. even the "quiet' ones are quite loud for a keyboard.

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FuckReddit4545 1 point ago +1 / -0

Give Chery MX Silvers a try perhaps? I personally haven't used them but I've heard good things. I have Cherry Blue clones in mine, and while I enjoy the noise, they are certainly loud.

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Emacs 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'll look into them. I enjoy the noise but on a tiling window manager + keyboard driven text editor + browser extension to control it with my keyboard there will sometimes be 15 minute periods of near constant clacking, starts to make me go insane.

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fivepointthree 3 points ago +3 / -0

you can turn off the faggot lights as well in nearly all parts

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zzbg 1 point ago +2 / -1

The only acceptable light to have is maybe a keyboard light, and only then if you do a lot of work at night.

And even then a constant state is fine. RGB is consooooomerbait.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

rgb sucks because it wastes energy for no reason. nd it increases the cost of your mouse/kb/monitor

they look cool for 5 minutes, then you get to burn extra watts and money for dumb shit.

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Half_alive 1 point ago +1 / -0

burn extra watts

Bruh. It’s like 2.5 watts MAX. Leaving it on 8 hours a day for a month would consume 0.6 kWH. That’s a rounding error on your power bill.

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Half_alive 1 point ago +1 / -0

TBH I don’t mind the lights. I really liked them back when I was a major goomer. The K70/90 RGB keyboards can be set to be a rudimentary music visualizer which is kinda fun.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

a scepter 1440p ultra wide monitor

ultrawide is a meme.

costs double

many games wont work on it, and some software doesnt display on it right

it will use around the same power as dual displays, and you wont be able to turn one off to save power, and when it goes bad, you've wasted 2 displays worth of money.

im not sold on the UW meme because they are impractical for most work, and even most games will not support them.

gamer headphones are also a waste of money.

sadly, no decent mice exist anymore, so the few good choices are GAYMER mice

some good keyboards are nongaymer models, but you'll have to shop around a lot

the rest is decent info 👍 👍

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Half_alive 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m gonna have to push back on that. Granted, 32:9 Ultra ultra wide is downright silly, but 21:9 is amazing for productivity if you actually use the computer for work. I use mine with 3+ virtual workspaces in Windows10 in lieu of dual monitors. Half screen snapping is way better on a 21:9 ratio because it ends up giving you two ~1:1 “screens” which to me is ideal. Plus, the design software I work with tends to misbehave if you are running two physical monitors. I don’t really care about ultra wide in gaming; if it works then cool.

I also stand by my Corsair “goomer” headset. The microphone is crystal clear and great for voip phone calls and video conferencing. The comfort level is top notch and rivals my Bose wireless over-ears (which I consider the standard bearer for peak wearability)

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Sneak_King 5 points ago +5 / -0

Strongly recommend everyone here with an interest in this consider holding on to old parts/rigs when it comes time to upgrade. The time is quickly coming when every single piece of your machine will spy on you and you won't be able to buy a piece of hardware that doesn't. When it comes time to pull the plug and give up on most of the internet, those old sticks of RAM and CPU are going to come in handy.

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Half_alive 4 points ago +4 / -0

The time is coming when you’ll only be able to buy “cloud terminals” that store nothing locally and are completely controlled by mega-corps. That is the real reason for this “chip shortage” unless you think China just decided to stop making computer chips.

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Workingdays 5 points ago +5 / -0

Uninstalled steam, replaced a loud twin fan 770gtx with a completely silent 1030 (£60).

Gaming pc became a media pc. Still need to learn modern kodi setups. 2nd monitor is now infront of the treadmill.

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MGTAU 4 points ago +4 / -0

Laptops in general I recommend Asus. Solid price and last longer than Dell.

PC building is tough now but if you want to build one go smaller and cheaper than you expected as they are pretty solid and you can do any work or games on them you want and save some cash.

Also, don't subscribe to world of War craft etc

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Mentok_The_Mindtaker 4 points ago +4 / -0

I used to build my own PCs when I was younger, but I found maintaining older PCs have the same disadvantages in maintaining old cars... the longer you can keep your PC running by replacing parts, the more and more things start to fail and the more expensive replacement parts become.

I work from home and use my PC constantly and it's a huge pain when my PC isn't working, so when something breaks, I replace the entire PC. I find a "real" computer store where I can order builds using specific parts and I just order the lowest end minimalist gaming PC they advertise and then add some more hard drive space and a little more RAM. I don't play computer games but I do like to have a lot of web browser tabs open and I also do graphics design and 3D modelling.

That always works well for me because PCs last me about six years and whatever I buy is always 10 x faster than what it replaced.

I appreciate "throwing it away and buying a new one" is inconsistent with the anti-consumerism ideology of this community, however in the rare cases of computer hardware, I find this approach to be the more cost effective and most pragmatic solution.

Sadly, buying computers isn't like buying kitchen appliances, power-tools, motorcycles or firearms. Nobody will ever point to a 30 year old computer and say, "Just as good as the day I bought it!".

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cutefroggy 4 points ago +4 / -0

Do you ever dust and clean the fans? It helps maintain it a bit longer

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Mentok_The_Mindtaker 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes I do and you're correct: it does help a LOT!

I used to provide hardware support to a government department and I've seen some horrific dust-bunnies stuffed inside the case of PCs! They scare me because of the fire hazard they can create.

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gamexa 3 points ago +3 / -0

I started selling off and recycling my old PCs since I finally accepted that they're too old to be worth keeping around anymore. It's not even that they can't still be useful to some extent, it's that you can get a new one for dirt cheap that's much faster, quieter, smaller, and uses way less power. I switched them all over to SSDs years ago, which extended their useful lives quite a bit, but that too has its limits since they're still bottlenecked by old storage and memory interfaces. The most significant improvements in computers in the last decade have been architectural improvements like that where you have to replace the motherboard anyway, so you may as well replace the whole computer all at once every so often rather than trying to upgrade it piecemeal these days (and this trend will probably continue as computer components become increasingly integrated).

Most of the computer things I'm interested in now are outside my desktop (which is a few years old but still perfectly fine). For example, I got a NAS for storage a while back (for storing backups as well as big files that don't need SSD speeds), which has been great. I'm going to get a low-power mini-PC with dual ethernet ports to turn into a router running OpnSense because I've become increasingly paranoid and no longer trust black box consumer routers. I'm also going to set up some security cameras in preparation for, you know, potential impending civil strife and need a computer to run all that.

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lemonjuice 2 points ago +2 / -0

If your computer is old enough, you may want to keep the ones that don't have the hardware built in backdoors like in modern CPUs and HDDs.

Edit: this user down below makes a point: https://consumeproduct.win/p/12kFdoRpws/x/c/4JEVhPgwwp7

Strongly recommend everyone here with an interest in this consider holding on to old parts/rigs when it comes time to upgrade. The time is quickly coming when every single piece of your machine will spy on you and you won't be able to buy a piece of hardware that doesn't. When it comes time to pull the plug and give up on most of the internet, those old sticks of RAM and CPU are going to come in handy.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

they're still bottlenecked by old storage and memory interfaces.

They are bottlenecked because youve taken the windows bluepills, bro.

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gamexa 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't use Windows. I'm talking about SSDs connected to SATA-II or SATA-III. They're bottlenecked by the interface, which is why newer computers connect SSDs through NVMe. Also objectively slower RAM. There have also been tons of architectural improvements in the past couple of decades such as removing the front side bus and implementing the functionality of the old northbridges and southbridges directly onto the CPU (namely, on-die memory and storage controllers). This is where the majority of tangible performance improvements over the last several years have come from. It's not like the nineties where you could replace your CPU every couple of years and consistently get noticeable performance improvements from it. I don't see how Stallman fairy dust changes any of that.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

You might be the problem if your new computers, cared for, only last 6 years.

Actually, it is a LOT like that. If they were taken care of, they would be "AS FAST" as the day they were purchased. They will not be FASTER THAN NEW TECHNOLOGY, obvious. but the change in processing power over the last decade makes 10y computers still versatile.

The problem in computers slowing is when their owners download AOC porn and that slows down the pc as it gets disgusted at its use purpose.

modern (2010s-now) pcs dont have a lot of components break, usually, but the more recent macs and MS pcs are built to break, so stay away from those brands, when possible.

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youlack 3 points ago +3 / -0

I re-build used computers. Old computers don't have stupid puke RGB or glass windows. No Windows 10 either, only older Windows or Linux.

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RightSideFunding 3 points ago +3 / -0

I want to build a PI cluster for ETL processing, but it seems like mid-priced ones are scarce right now.

Does anyone have experience with building clusters?

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Blursed2021 3 points ago +3 / -0

What's the platform for ETL processing? Clusters in my experience are nothing but a headache.

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RightSideFunding 1 point ago +1 / -0

I use python, and linux to Extract Millions of XML files, and upload them to mongo, and create HTML files with them.

Clusters are a headache, but I need to be able to do 500k a day, and they take about 3-6 seconds each

I also need to learn Parallel processing, but it is not easy with python, and everything that I have built is py

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Blursed2021 2 points ago +2 / -0

My experience with ETL and clusters is with ERP suites. Clusters can be replaced by highly specialized, premium appliances. Of course I'm not paying for it, just administering them.

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RightSideFunding 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, I only have about $500 in Budget to make this happen, now I use 10 Linode Nanos.. But I want to go local, in case they decide to limit my usage someday.

I built the ETL tool myself, and while it is not perfect, it works better than any other solution that I can find.

I am especially fond of the Transform tool.

All I need to do in order to transform a data source is to make a dictionary with the column name as the Key, and a Function, or series of Functions as values, and then the tool applies all of the transforms to the dict, and returns the dict, with the same formatting, and transformed values.

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carneasdasda 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do you mean asynchronous processing (doing something else while waiting on a response from a service and delegating it to a callback)? You talk about using 10 nodes, that should already give you alot of parallel processing just by separating it onto those, if you're running a worker to actively listen to a central job queue through multiple threads on each one of the nodes.

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RightSideFunding 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think that I mean parallel.

Each core simultaneously doing its own work.

So If I have 8 Cores, I want all 8 to grab an XML from redis, process it, and return it to redis. At the same time.

I want to do it from a single computer, so I don' have to pay for hosting

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WesternCarnival 3 points ago +3 / -0

5900x, MSI x570 Unify, 64gb ram, 5700xt. Want to get a 6900 for the infinity fabric tech, but current graphics card market.

Only goom i really play is 7D2D, but never much time for it.

Wanna start doing video editing, but no time for that either.

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braindead_zoomer 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is only slightly related to the topic at hand, but I must admit that I would gladly consoom Thinkpads if they were built to the old standards. I miss the things.

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Emacs 1 point ago +1 / -0

Things like the framework laptop are interesting to me, but it's too early for me to consider. I'll stick with my current desktop until it dies and then I'll probably just move to using old laptops.

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braindead_zoomer 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's an interesting project; I may keep tabs on it. I assembled a gAYmEr pc when I was dumber, and I also intend to use it until it dies. I hope it will last a long time.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

Things like the framework laptop are interesting to me, but it's too early for me to consider. I'll stick with my current desktop until it dies and then I'll probably just move to using old laptops.

its designed by mac cattle. unusable touchpad and faggy arrow keys.

this computer is designed for cattle. no hdd available, cheapest option (750) is with NO storage, probably will not fit a mans hdd in the case

doesnt list actual frequencies, also for mac chattel

included wireless is intel

only has single Combo audio jack

3 lbs, mediocre for such a basic pc

qr code for mac cattle to coom to

fingerprint reader so mom doesnt see your tranny porn

it looks like only TWO customizable ports? wow thats a great upgrade for a mac coomer with 1 port LMAO

there are so many better choices in this price range that its not worth switching out a wireless card. some of them you can hdd/ram yourself too so this isnt really that special, they will have a LOT more io too, for the same price.

fingerprint reader is also for groomer coomer cunts

and u/emacs.

For bd_zmer. gaymer pcs are cool if you made it yourself. keeping it out of a landfill saves money and time. overbuild the power supply, and cool cool cool. dedust once in a while as well. modern pcs will last a while when taken care of properly. just reply if you want better sources for best ways to do it these days.

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braindead_zoomer 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'd be indebted to you if you gave me the sources.

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Emacs 1 point ago +1 / -0

Very autistic response, lol. Notice how I said "things like the framework laptop are interesting to me"?

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drjillsusedscrunchie 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've built multiple PCs, and even repaired my dell laptop once way back when. I'm too lazy to post my current rig tho. Pretty salty about bitcoin mining tbh.

I recently discovered someone using a PC that appeared to be running windows 95, and was at least 15 years old, so that was interesting.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

30 years old? or a more recent computer running 95?

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SeproDep 2 points ago +2 / -0

I just have a crappy laptop. I mostly use my phone.

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MasterChef 2 points ago +2 / -0

Depends on how much you're sinking into it, and what you need it for

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MasterChef 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's about normal for a higher end pc current prices are nuts though. If your trying to quit just don't update it. Loading times will eventually wear down on you

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

Meh. Its a hobby. and its still better than funcos or buying iphones

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MisterMeister 2 points ago +2 / -0

For those that don't want to waste time searching for different parts, I honestly recommend purchasing a pre-built Dell OptiPlex and adding a GPU (if you want) and perhaps even replacing the PSU. It's such a neat sleeper PC that does whatever you want within reason, of course.

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lemonjuice 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just built my rig: https://media.communities.win/post/lYysnTeD.png

Currently playing Athal Wolf, the literal opposite of Wolfenstein.

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OrangeCatBad 2 points ago +2 / -0

I rejected 16gb and 32gb and went with a 24gb ram setup

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OGrawsaw 2 points ago +2 / -0

I have an Acer Nitro 5 laptop which is good for its $500 price. It can´t run modern AAA games too well, and if it does manage to it turns into an oven. It is however perfect for last gen games and all of the ones before that. I have been thinking about upgrading but I need the money first lol.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

buy a fan for it, op, or build a gaming desktop.

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Barian84 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you aren't running Linux or BSD you're computer is running kike-ware.

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crackerstacker 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you switch to Linux then even your fairly old computer will appear to run a lot faster. No massive windows bloat holding it down.

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HingusTheBungus 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have a Hewlett Packard Pavilion 500-223w that I upgraded the RAM of a few months ago.

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christianknight 1 point ago +1 / -0

I5 10600k RTX 3070 TI 16 GB DDR4

Checking in.

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tabarnak 1 point ago +1 / -0

Built a computer ~5 yrs ago for about $1200. RX480, i5 4460, 8GB ram. Do not build a PC with these specs because like u/Electronicscreen0, it swallowed me whole and left me in a state of video game addiction I've not completely recovered from yet. If you must, build a PC using specs that avoid back doors (e.g. old CPUs that don't use Intel Management Engine).

I have a Thinkpad T420s (a 10 year old laptop) which is actually faster at web browsing and opening programs due to its SSD. The battery is somewhat poor but otherwise, the laptop is great.

New computer parts are redundant at this point, and you could easily build an adequate computer with parts from the mid-late 2000's. Old Thinkpads are great for laptops. Linux is great for increasing the lifespan of computers, as the programs are often more lightweight; you can even use programs that run entirely in the terminal!

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Emacs 2 points ago +2 / -0

There are very few valid reasons to have a powerful computer these days. Only ones I see as valid is either gaming, which I've increasingly become more skeptical of, and then for software developers who need to compile software often.

I also agree on using Linux. Switched a while back and I don't plan on ever going back. Once you open yourself to the *nix paradigm it's really eye opening how locked up other systems are.

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zunk 2 points ago +2 / -0

I had a T430 that I used for pretty much everything for a very long time, but I got kinda sick of lugging it around and consoomed an m1 MBA base model. Got it 200 bucks off. Probably not a completely sound purchase, but the battery life is incredible for school and work and the screen doesn't make me want to claw my eyes out.

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DEPORT_DOOMERS -1 points ago +1 / -2

Why would I build a pc? Vidya is gay

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RighteousFury12 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Consume pre-built pc and get excited for next pre-built pc

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Blursed2021 -2 points ago +1 / -3

PCs? I thought we liked consoles.

Seems like the Chad thing to do.

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80960KA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah consoom product that can only do one thing, and it's provide mindless entertainment and limited strictly by the multinational that makes it.

Real Chad shit.

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Blursed2021 -1 points ago +1 / -2

It's a joke dude.

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80960KA 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh I just assumed you were being retarded again.

Hard to tell.

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Blursed2021 1 point ago +1 / -0

Right.

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drjillsusedscrunchie 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well it's certainly not called the Console Master Race...

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

Consoles are fully locked, pcs are customizable, I think pcs are more anti consoomer.

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Blursed2021 1 point ago +1 / -0

"games? Yeah I play games, look at my score in Space Cadet 3d Pinball!"

Anyway, I was joking. Pcs and consoles are both consumer, bugman devices. Pcs have far more potential harm for young men.