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posted ago by conserve_west ago by conserve_west +29 / -4

Straight to the point:

Lockdowns have kept me and my fiance apart. We dont live together and are a good 2 hours drive from one another. It has been hard and painful for us both.

We both discussed the vaccine and it has been researched and developed too soon. We both agreed about 2 months ago that we wouldnt take it for another year.

Now that we havent seen each other, compounded by the messaging of the media that encourages everyone to get vaccinated, plus her family all getting the vaccine...she herself is getting the vaccine in a month.

Now the pressure is on me. It is slowly turning into a "Would you get the vaccine for me?" sort of deal and it is killing me.

I have pictured it in my mind that I will never betray my own consciousness, no matter the pressure. But I'm unsure now.

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AntiSanctimonious 26 points ago +26 / -0

Dont stay with her if shes going to play those type of manipulation games, some women do it all the time (my mom). I dont hate her for it but getting a fiance that doesnt bitch and moan in arguments and that you agree with on the most important things (which this subject definitely is) is important. You will find another girl eventually, don’t settle for someone who changed her mind so quickly in 2 months after making a promise with you. Who knows how much she would change if you decided to get married to her.

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TheWestYearZero 6 points ago +6 / -0

It is very important in marriage to get someone who is sweet and easy-going and not manipulative. And hwo doesn't change with the wind. You don't want 50 years of that shit.

Besides, the vaccine may make her infertile.

And who wants to be married to a weak-willed midwit?

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DrNilesCrane___ 17 points ago +17 / -0

The vaccine has been really screwing with women's menstrual cycles, making them shorter (2.5 to 3 weeks instead of 4), with much heavier periods. I personally know two woman this is happening to, and there have been many reported around the internet and the news. It seems to be a common side effect.

The problem is that people are blowing it off as "oh boohoo women's periods are messed up, big deal". It's not a small thing.

The menstrual cycle is meant to be roughly 28 days long. When the cycle is too short, it means that they are ovulating early by a week or more (around day 7 or 8 instead of around 14 or 15), which means that the egg is being released before it is mature and into an environment that isn't ready for it yet. This leads to difficulty maintaining pregnancies or getting pregnant at all.

If kids are in your plans, do not let her get this shot.

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RightSideFunding 10 points ago +10 / -0

Nice Response.. Seems like there will be Mass Infertility or possibly a severe increase in Infant retardation?

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2DIsGreaterThan3D 6 points ago +6 / -0

All part of their plan, it's ment to show the side effects many years in the future.

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DrNilesCrane___ 5 points ago +5 / -0

I think it's meant to make people sterile or at least make it very very hard to get pregnant. I saw link on Voat earlier to a guy on Reddit saying his sperm count was lower after the shot.

Not sure if weak eggs will produce retarded kids but I would think birth defects in general would be on the table.

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RightSideFunding 5 points ago +5 / -0

Our Evil leaders have been developing Sterilization Vaccines for Decades! https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12342688/

This would not be the first time that they have released them onto the Public either.. It has likely been done in Africa, Cameroon, the Philippines, and other places.

In my work of Studying Non-Profit foundation, I have found absolute proof that many Vaccinations are designed specifically for the Purpose of Population Control through Death, and Infertility.

There is a reason that African Children and Women in small 4th World Villages jump from windows and run to the Sea when they see the Western Doctors roll up in with their Syringes and White Jackets.

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Barian84 5 points ago +5 / -0

Sterilization efforts in Africa don't seem to be working.

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Harambe 6 points ago +6 / -0

Because they are smart enough to dodge the shot.

If an African can figure this out, but you can’t, I got some bad news about your IQ

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TheWestYearZero 3 points ago +3 / -0

Low trust societies.

You can't say it is irrational.

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MGTAU 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bingo. Ever notice why black people ride a bike down the street the wrong way?

They don't trust traffic coming from behind them

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conserve_west [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I would need some research and studies to back this up. I've read on it myself but cant seem to find any that don't come from websites or sources that would make normies scoff at seeing "www.liberty/freedom/resistance/(other-right-wing-buzzwords).com"

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2DIsGreaterThan3D 2 points ago +2 / -0

Best bet would to use the .pdf that was floating around showing the different instances of people having severe sode effects.

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DrNilesCrane___ 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well... Good luck finding studies and research that will admit anything at all negative about it. Search "covid vaccination women's menstrual cycles" and you'll get several articles like this, where they acknowledge that something is indeed happening, but brush it off as nothing to worry about (as noted in my post).

And many more.

If you mean studies and research concerning the affects early ovulation, this is just basic biology and there's no shortage of information about this. Here is a refresher:

A cycle is split into two parts- the pre-ovulatory period and the post-ovulatory period. In a perfect cycle:

  • Day 1- first day of bleeding
  • Day 14- ovulation (egg is released and you can get pregnant)
  • Day 29 = Day 1 of next cycle- first day of bleeding

The first two weeks can vary due to all kinds of things like stress, sleep, etc. Usually ovulation is delayed if a woman is very stressed, making her period "late". The pre-ovulatory phase can be any length of time, but SHOULD be about two weeks for a healthy pregnancy. In this time, the uterus is getting everything ready to be a hospitable environment to a fertilized egg.

The second two weeks do not vary to much at all. It is almost always 14-18 days, with a higher body temperature than the first two weeks, unless you are pregnant, in which case those high temps continue into the first trimester and there is no bleeding.

So if a woman's cycle is short, meaning she starts bleeding on Day 21 or so, the missing days are from the first two weeks, not the last two. Meaning it would look like this:

  • Day 1- first day of bleeding
  • Day 7- ovulation
  • Day 21/ Day 1 of next cycle- bleeding

Meaning that egg is not mature and the uterus wasn't ready for it, so it will probably not be viable.

For more info- check out "Taking Charge of Your Fertility" by Toni Weschler.

Frankly, ANY change in a menstrual cycle- early, late, too heavy, too light- is cause for alarm. The menstrual cycle is a woman's reproductive system at work and changes there indicate internal issues. Again, if you want kids, she shouldn't take anything that is going to affect her baby-making abilities.

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Harambe 4 points ago +4 / -0

The bigger the fight, the better the sex. There is literally no reward for simping

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RightSideFunding 13 points ago +14 / -1

If you get the Vaccine for a Brain Dead Woman, you are not a Man, and you do not belong on this Board.

If you get the Vaccine for any reason at all, you are Betraying all of us, your true friends, and your Race.

Now, there are 10's of Millions who have not been Vaxxed, and they cannot Punish all of us, however, if People like you turn out to be real cowards, there will only be 10's of Thousands of us left, who stand Against Tyranny, and for Justice and Bodily Autonomy.

You think that by Getting it things will get better, but that is where you are wrong.. THEY WILL NOT STOP, until we stop Complying. It will be Just one shot to get back to normal, then a Booster every 6 Months, then Mandatory ID for all People in Society, then a Social Credit Score.. Then you will be in Full Despotic Communism

What don't you Understand about Tyranny? This has nothing to do with the safety, or efficacy of the Shot.. This is about the absolute Necessity to Resist Tyranny and Hold onto the few rights that we have left.

Be a Man, and Tell your Woman who is Boss.. If She doesn't like that, then She is not the right one anyway.

Resistance to Tyranny is the Main sticking point, but you must also consider the chances of Death, Serious Adverse Events, Infertility, or worse.. The a slight chance that this is some type of Mark of the Beast or a Pre-Cursor to it.

Are you a Man? Do you have any Self Respect left? Do you care about Freedom and Justice.. Then Just Say No.

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conserve_west [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

I am trying to stay on board.

I've been praying for guidance on this.

I won't take the vaccine, and I won't allow myself to be coerced (or emotionally blackmailed) into taking it.

My concern is now trying to get my fiance on board with the idea of NOT taking the vaccine and her not betraying her own consciousness.

She is educated in the sciences, and she herself brought up that this "vaccine" has been developed WAY too quickly. That is enough for me to not bring it up. She's still a normie though and isn't in the loop with topics on this board, so I don't think bombarding her with all the infertility/population control would work. It would only come across as me using a scare tactic and I'd be accused of coercion. I would prefer she not take the vaccine, but I do not control her or anyone else.

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Harambe 6 points ago +6 / -0

Just tell her straight up, it’s not hard.

I told my wife if she gets the vaxx we are 100% done, because I want to have kids.

She is now fully on board, but at the outset I had to be very firm to break her conditioning.

Women need strong male guidance sometimes

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TheWestYearZero 3 points ago +3 / -0

I find it hard to believe that you would even consider falling for the "Won't diddums at least do it for liddle-widdle me-kums?"

Maybe it is time for your balls to drop and to develop some self-respect.

Marrying someone who would try this shit is the end of your life as a man and the beginning of your life as a doormat.

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conserve_west [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

She has never done this before and we are very open in our communication on everything.

It is more likely (as pointed out by others) that the fear/media/social pressure has gotten to her having being separated from one another

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mrscorpio 11 points ago +11 / -0

Don't get it.

You're only unsure because you're going through this situation yourself and you can't think straight since it involves your girlfriend, if you saw it from the outside you'd see that getting it would be a mistake - clear as day.

Do you think women respect men who flip-flop on their position like that?

And if it is a really serious relationship you should be living together - possibly married - and you wouldn't have to care that much about what your respective families expect of you.

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conserve_west [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Firstly the idea of co-habitation is against the tradition of our faith.

Hence why we arent living together.

If anything we Love each other more for upholding each others' value on pre-marital sex, cohabitation and the like.

She has a lot of things I value to be the mother of my children.

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mrscorpio 6 points ago +6 / -0

If she upholds those values, then she probably also wants to have kids.

Getting this 'vaccine' can definitely make it harder to have kids and there have been cases of babies dying after their mothers - who were breast-feeding them - got it.

Let her know this kind of things happen and that it can be risky. Don't overwhelm her though, she has to reach those conclusions herself. Don't give her an ultimatum, but also don't show her you're faltering on this issue.

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MilkPilled 5 points ago +5 / -0

It sounds like she values her future children and probably has heard too much "vaccine is harmless".

You really need to reinforce that this "vax" is an unknown quantity, and it likely damages her fertility. Look up and reference that anti-nausea medication that took years to see the side effects of. It's going to have to get to the point where you (more gently) say that you don't trust your children being exposed like that. Emphasize your rejection of the vax, NOT rejection of her.

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TruthDefenseForce 6 points ago +6 / -0

Tell her if she gets the vaccine, the marriage is off. That simple.

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TruthDefenseForce 7 points ago +7 / -0

Meh, the marriage is already over if she's so easily influenced by people who aren't her husband and then tries manipulating her husband into doing something she knows he's against. Just delaying the inevitable.

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Harambe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nope.

Ultimatums are how you express how serious this is to you.

We are at war and our partners need to have our backs

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TakenusernameA 3 points ago +3 / -0

Tell her you wont marry a woman who could potentially be barren. Make it about kids.

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PurestEvil 2 points ago +2 / -0

Convince her not to give in to peer pressure.

Although... I don't know how to deal best with irrational people... you can be right 1000 times in a row, but they will still not listen.

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conserve_west [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think I read an excerpt from your essay in a post.

Looking forward to it!

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KasierVonGoguryeo191 2 points ago +3 / -1

Do not let your fiancé get it, once she does, she can say goodbye to any potential kids, and so can you if you decide to go the extra step. Do your best to convince her to not get it, don't go full schizo, but just bring up a few sources and the contradicting info, like the recent mask mandate that's being brought back, even for jab people, stuff like that, wish you the best of luck

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TheWestYearZero 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am waiting for her to ask him to be a cuckold.

"Won't you even do it for me?"

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Removmudrace 1 point ago +1 / -0

Never kill yourself for a woman. In fact, never follow women. Always lead. If they don’t follow, then outside influences were greater than your own.

Separate them from outside influences or suffer its effects. In your case, your absence was filled by others. You have to surround and control her environment. Act now or lose her forever.

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syZKoY8HdFyrZrHKFuWr 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't do it. There are some things you cannot compromise.

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Salience 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't betray yourself. Tell her you aren't getting it that and she shouldn't either. Tell her why. If she respects you, she will listen to you.

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Half_alive 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why exactly do you have to get the vaccine if she has it? My main concern would be the potential birth defects and fertility issues now that she has taken a genetic modification into her body. That’s a tough break man.

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Brotherhoodlum 1 point ago +1 / -0

Matthew 13:3 Then He spoke many things to them in parables, saying: “Behold, a sower went out to sow. 4 And as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside; and the birds came and devoured them. 5 Some fell on stony places, where they did not have much earth; they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth. 6 But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up and choked them. 8 But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop, some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. 9 He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

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Bornfree1993 1 point ago +1 / -0

You sound like an absolute faggot.

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conserve_west [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Amen

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MilkPilled 2 points ago +2 / -0

Premarital sex is a sin, and living together is like a 98% chance of fucking

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Harambe 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don’t think God will deny my entrance to heaven because my wife and I decided to start a little early.

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conserve_west [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

In the eyes of God, you taking your gandma's cookies before she said you could is as bad as murder.

It is only we that shape our morality to suit our needs.

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MilkPilled 1 point ago +2 / -1

Ok. He probably won't care about you cheating on her. Or stealing. Or having gay buttsex. Or taking his name in vain. Or killing yourself.

He's probably catered the requirements to heaven based on what you want to do, honestly

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Harambe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Time to get a new woman. Her primary job is to raise kids and the vaxx is fucking up women’s ability to have babies. 80% miscarriage rate

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conserve_west [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm gonna need a source on that.