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marvinthehaggler 2 points ago +2 / -0

For me "the breaking" was to view the emotions that rage as things I did not have to feel. To view them as somehow "external".

And once you click on that idea, you become a very dangerous person indeed. Dangerous... in a good way.

And then once you see it, you will see it everywhere. These are ideas of the Stoics, right? And now I will provide you the same idea from the Dhammapada, written long, long before. And I will leave it to those on this post to go find the exact same ideas in the works of Siddhartha, and Lao Tzu, and others.

Verse 33, of course. Because "it's always 33...." (Gematria).

"The mind is excitable and unsteady; it is difficult to control and to restrain. The wise one trains his mind to be upright as a fletcher straightens an arrow."

Now go and do likewise, gentlemen. Go and do likewise.

BasedMan000 2 points ago +2 / -0

It goes deeper than that still. For instance if you manage to get your hands on a pdf of "The Daily Stoicc", you'll find that Stoicism is like a further elaboration of all those things and you'll also notice some distinctions. But there definitely have been some pre-stoic teachings.

marvinthehaggler 1 point ago +1 / -0

I do own that work. Not sure I understand what points you are making here, but I surely agree that Stoicism is in one sense "one thing" (a perspective) and in another sense many things: a view that informs every aspect of life and how to live it.

BasedMan000 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was trying to imply that Stoicism goes deeper than what was said by all those other guys.